Oscillating BSIAB II

Started by StefanMoring, October 12, 2008, 12:05:48 PM

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StefanMoring

I've just finished my BSIAB II, but when I turn the trim pot CW, it starts oscillating, sounding like a motorboat. Funny to play with,
but it wasn't my intention to create a motorboat emulator. With the trim pot all the way CCW it isn't oscillating, the sound is slightly
overdriven, but very thin.

Here are the transistor voltages I measured:

   Q1      Q2    Q3       Q4       Q5
G   0.00   2.84   0.00   2.82   0.00
S   0.82   4.81   0.07   4.16   1.19
D   4.81   8.53   4.16   8.53   8.51

The bold numbers are the odd values.


Any ideas on what the problem might be? Could it just be a messed up transistor? I haven't tried
other transistors yet, don't have them on stock right now  :-\

Any help would be appreciated, cause this effect rocks ;)

Stefan

petemoore

  Q1      Q2    Q3       Q4       Q5
G   0.00   2.84   0.00   2.82   0.00
S   0.82   4.81   0.07   4.16   1.19
D   4.81   8.53   4.16   8.53   8.51
  I forget which Q number is which in the MuAmp, there's a top tranny [which sets bias for the bottom one] and a bottom tranny to each Mu Amp.
  Use of schematic and Mu Amp biasing info [GEO] allows Mu bias to be analyzed.
  The bottom tranny D and top tranny S of each mu amp should be 'mid-bias' [~1/2v].
  Mu Amps are self biasing. The gain transistor of the Mu needs it's gate voltage above the source voltage.
 
 
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

dxm1

Q3 and Q4 are the mU. Q3-Source is at ground, and Q4-Drain is Vcc. Q3-Drain and Q4-Source are 1/2Vcc, so it looks like the mU is working...
Q3-Gate should only be at ground when R19 is full CCW.

Q5-Gate at ground is a bad thing - have you double checked the pinout? Solder Bridge?

Were these measurements made with an input signal applied?

StefanMoring

I measured it with my guitar and amp plugged in, wasn't hitting the strings though.

StefanMoring

R19 and R20 were turned fully CW. I would think Q3-Gate is at ground when R19 is turned fully CW..
thanks for the quick replies btw :D

slacker

Q5 Drain is too high it should be about 4.5 - 5.00 volts, you should be able to adjust it into that range with R16. If you can't then there's a problem round there some where.

StefanMoring

i'll try to replace R16 then, but it'll take a while since I'm quite out of money ;)

dxm1

Cool - you've got time then... Put the Drive, Tone, and Volume pots in their center positions. Take three more sets of measurements: R16 full CCW, R16 centered, and R16 full CW.  This would point out potential problems with the last stage... Also, double check the values of R14 and R15.