Oh god... not one of these posts.... ! Fuzz Suggestions!

[Evad Nomenclature]

Hey guys.

Yeah... these posts are so lame.  But to be clear... there are like 8,0000000000000 fuzz pedals, and I have a few sets of matched PNP germs I need to use... so.

I'm looking to make a fuzz that doesn't have that high shrill hissy sound on top.
For Instance, I owned an English Muff'n from Electro Harmonix... the only time I would use it was when i could back down the treble *all the way*
looking for something thick and square wavey.  I've built a Shin-EI and a Bass Fuzz (adapted for guitar) as well as a few off of dragonfly's layouts that ive breadboarded... (oh god I cant remember which ones)

Anyone know what I'm saying and have any suggestions?

(yes, forgive me for the lame arbitrary, "tell me what to do" post.) 

peace~!
dave

[Mark Hammer]

Not to be a party pooper, but you DO realize that the transistors in question will not "go bad", like fresh fruit, any time within the next few months, right?  Wait, and something will come along that justifies using them.  In the meantime....play music! 

[jacobyjd]

so just for kicks recently, I wired a fuzz face (npn) with a colorsound inductorless wah (no foot pedal, 100kB for the control), with a gain recovery stage (basically a trotsky w/ fixed gain and no clipping diodes) at the end.

It made for a REALLY cool fuzz, especially with the ability to crank the fuzz volume all the way (thus overdriving the wah's transistor), then attenuating back to unity w/ the volume control in the recovery stage.

This did some intriguing things--I could get some non-trebly fuzz tones that went from being almost TOO muddy to crazy treblyness. Depending on how you adjust the volume controls (both on the fuzz and the recovery stage), you could dial in an extra bit of resonance that mimicked the wah's sweet spot.

Very cool. That's pretty much my suggestion.

Interestingly enough, all of the elements of the circuit I put together could be done w/ PNP transistors, so feel free to go to town with it

[Evad Nomenclature]

Not to be a party pooper, but you DO realize that the transistors in question will not "go bad", like fresh fruit, any time within the next few months, right?  Wait, and something will come along that justifies using them.  In the meantime....play music! 

lol... i know i know... but they have been sitting all alone on my bench since the 4th week of my pedal training (granted, I've been demoted to pedal pre-training after my last few builds... but)
And yes, I'm playing music    Actually, getting ready to book some studio time for the late spring, beed doing pre-pro like a mo-fo!

[Evad Nomenclature]

so just for kicks recently, I wired a fuzz face (npn) with a colorsound inductorless wah (no foot pedal, 100kB for the control), with a gain recovery stage (basically a trotsky w/ fixed gain and no clipping diodes) at the end.

It made for a REALLY cool fuzz, especially with the ability to crank the fuzz volume all the way (thus overdriving the wah's transistor), then attenuating back to unity w/ the volume control in the recovery stage.

This did some intriguing things--I could get some non-trebly fuzz tones that went from being almost TOO muddy to crazy treblyness. Depending on how you adjust the volume controls (both on the fuzz and the recovery stage), you could dial in an extra bit of resonance that mimicked the wah's sweet spot.

Very cool. That's pretty much my suggestion.

Interestingly enough, all of the elements of the circuit I put together could be done w/ PNP transistors, so feel free to go to town with it

Cool man.  the Colorsound inductorless was what Dano was doing, right?  I've been meaning to try that thing....
yeah... I'm more apt to use the fuzz for whacked out stuff making crazy sounds than straight ahead stuff anyway, so that sounds intriguing.

[jacobyjd]

Kind of--he did the Optochopto, which uses the CIW as its filter. It's around if you check out the galleries. Common problems include less-than-unity output (for the wah itself--hence my gain recovery stage  )

The fuzz I built was surprisingly not was whacked-out as I thought--it wasn't tame, by any means, but it had a smooth fuzz tone w/ a subtle fixed wah after it--which serves pretty well to remove some highs from the fuzz signal if you want it to.

[bumblebee]

Thick and square wave? Woolly mammoth perhaps!