Yes, yet another neovibe debug topic

Started by Valoosj, April 17, 2009, 11:41:06 AM

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Valoosj


1.Neovibe
2.I followed the layout from the write-up.
3.Mods: 250K trimmer replacing the 2 100K resistors, added a 100K trimmer in series with R47.
4.The vibe vibes, but I get this background noise. Listen to it here neovibe;k.mp3


Some pics:



I'm using 18VDC, in the meantime I pulled out the diode bridge, as my previous neovibe did not have it and that on did work fine.


All trannies 2N5088 apart from the bulb trannie, that's a 2N3904.

I will update this tonight with the voltages on the trannies, but maybe somebody already has an idea by the sound.
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

MikeH

When I try to listen to that clip I get "Access Denied!"
"Sounds like a Fab Metal to me." -DougH

Valoosj

That should be fixed now.
As for the voltages, I don't know if they will be necessary, seeing as the vibe really works well apart from the extra noise.
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

MikeH

Heh heh- are you sure that just isn't a hamster running on it's wheel in the background?  :icon_lol:

As far as what might be wrong; sorry, I got nothin'
"Sounds like a Fab Metal to me." -DougH

Valoosj

Might also be good to know, I'm turning the speedknob in the beginning.
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

mdh

Maybe it's those long wires going from the neighborhood of the lamp driver over to the little daughterboard.  If they have a pretty hot LFO signal on them (which I suspect they do), it's easy to imagine that it's getting capacitively coupled into the audio path.

Valoosj

Ok, voltages!

7815 gives out 14,70V

Q1
C 1,8
B 1,3
E 0,9

Q2
C 4,25
B 1,8
E 1,5

Q3
C 10,9
B 4,25
E 3,6

Q4
C 14,75
B 4,66
E 4,25

Q5
C 11,1
B 4,66
E 3,6

Q6
C 14,75
B 4,66
E 4,25

Q7
C 11,1
B 4,66
E 3,6

Q8
C 14,75
B 4,66
E 4,25

Q9
C 11,1
B 4,66
E 3,6

Q10
C14,75
B5,85
E5,4

Q11
C 18,10
B 6-8 (can't get a stable reading and it shifts so fast)
E 8-11

Q12
C 18,10
B 8-11
E 7,5 - 10,2

Q13
C 14-18
B 1-3
E 1-2
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

Valoosj

#7
Quote from: mdh on April 17, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
Maybe it's those long wires going from the neighborhood of the lamp driver over to the little daughterboard.  If they have a pretty hot LFO signal on them (which I suspect they do), it's easy to imagine that it's getting capacitively coupled into the audio path.

Those 3 trimmers are for the mods. The mixing resistors, the extra 100K to R47 to change the sweep a bit, and the pulsating led mod. At first there was no LED, but the sttrange noise was there though. Adding the LED didn't change it.


EDIT: I just removed the R47 mod, still no improvement.
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

SteveB

Wow! I wish I could help, but I all I know is that something is definitely wrong. The guitar sound should be modulating more, & the feedback squeak shouldn't be there at all. Check solder joints, cap polarities & resistor values.

Steve

Valoosj

Could my powersupply be causing this? Or is the on board filtering sufficient?
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

Valoosj

Is there somebody that can check the voltages?
Or shoot out some ideas?
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!

Valoosj

Ok, I think I already found out. I hooked my power supply up to my OCD, and the bugger starts making the same type of noise, only the oscillation goes a lot faster. Safe to say that it's the power supply then that causes the noise. Will try with another one shortly.
Quote from: frequencycentral
You squeezed it into a 1590A - you insane fool!  :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Scruffie
Well this... this is just silly... this can't fit in a 1590B... can it? And you're not even using SMD you mad man!