psychedelic fuzzzzzz!

[manolis]

Ahhhh,The Music Machine....
IMO ,the Ultimate fuzztone sound, the sound that i am looking for years and still haven't found, is ......The Music Machine - Trouble.
Just listen to it and tell me what the ?#$? is this....
BTW i have the vinyl ''Bonniwell Music Machine - Ignition". Somewhere on the back it says "Keith Olsen - Bass,Vocals,Fuzz-Designer"!!!
It was 1966-1967.   

[Mark Hammer]

Nah, you're all wrong.  It's this one, around the 1:50 mark   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6jeQUbovjI
...or maybe this one, pretty much the whole way through.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za1e_PEofdE

[rnfr]

Ahhhh,The Music Machine....
IMO ,the Ultimate fuzztone sound, the sound that i am looking for years and still haven't found, is ......The Music Machine - Trouble.
Just listen to it and tell me what the ?#$? is this....
BTW i have the vinyl ''Bonniwell Music Machine - Ignition". Somewhere on the back it says "Keith Olsen - Bass,Vocals,Fuzz-Designer"!!!
It was 1966-1967.   

i've got that record as well- not on vinyl though unfortunately.  i need to get more of the early Music Machine stuff. Talk Talk is the jam!

[petemoore]

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uquMUIC6GXY
  Hafta say the Holding Company knew well how to use Fuzz in a most gut-wrenching manner, works quite well against a backdrop of solid rythms made from fine artistry/musicianship.
  The Electric Prunes and Strawberry Alarm Clock made some interesting entries, fuzz w/tremolo and other 'oddities' in the mix.
  I find it's a bit hard to define psychadelic in music, Fripp did some flipp runs with King Crimson, 21rst Century Schitzoid Man...

[Mark Hammer]

Yeah, I think you win there.  Sam Andrew says here that they used Standell amps and Fuzz Faces: http://www.thepsychedelicguitar.com/andrew.htm

[bluesdevil]

Great job, Doug! Just got done slamming it on the breadboard and was not disappointed..... I could tell you put some effort into  finding the sixties "psych/garage" fuzz sound. I tried mucking about with the 47k that's coming out of Q2 to raise the fuzz volume more, but I then realized the mix is perfect as is. I think I'll save the trimmer and just throw a 100k resistor from output to ground... a true no-knobber!
       Thanks for sharing your efforts, looking forward to what you come up with next.

[rousejeremy]

Hey Bluesdevil, that was your 666th quote.

Great job, Doug! Just got done slamming it on the breadboard and was not disappointed..... I could tell you put some effort into  finding the sixties "psych/garage" fuzz sound. I tried mucking about with the 47k that's coming out of Q2 to raise the fuzz volume more, but I then realized the mix is perfect as is. I think I'll save the trimmer and just throw a 100k resistor from output to ground... a true no-knobber!
       Thanks for sharing your efforts, looking forward to what you come up with next.

[bluesdevil]

Yeah, that is a landmark post for a devil!

[brett]

Hi
Given the feedback paths and various filtering in this, I couldn't "see" what the frequency response would be.  For example, the input cap would have to be filtering a lot of bass, given the low input impedance of the PN2222.  But how much?  So I did a bit of LTSPICE ing and found (if I did this right) that this circuit has a quite large hump in the upper mids (500 to 1kHz).   100 Hz is about 10 dB down and 10kHz is 15 dB down (deep down!). 

Here's the AC analysis.  http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=40187&g2_serialNumber=1
cheers

[brett]

Hi
although this is a simple project, I thought I'd knock together a PCB.  Here's a tiny PCB that mounts on the volume pot.
There's what it looks like:

and the PCB

cheers

[GREEN FUZ]

You read my mind. I`ll have to build it now.

[rnfr]

i made a vintage style vero layout-  it's on my blog.


http://apocalypseaudio.blogspot.com/

[SpencerPedals]

I'm a fan of the Companion circuit but it's not on my breadboard at the moment...anyone put up a soundclip to see how it compares?

[doug deeper]

i made a vintage style vero layout-  it's on my blog.


http://apocalypseaudio.blogspot.com/

tell me about the "wem hand full" on your site!
do you have a link with anymore info? do you know what it is?
freakout and psychedelia buttons!
wylde!

[rnfr]

i made a vintage style vero layout-  it's on my blog.


http://apocalypseaudio.blogspot.com/

tell me about the "wem hand full" on your site!
do you have a link with anymore info? do you know what it is?
freakout and psychedelia buttons!
wylde!


doug, i wish i knew more, too!  that thing has always been a mystery to me.

[WhenBoredomPeaks]

For me it sounds like a boost on the lower frequencies and a fuzz on the high frequencies blended.

Amirite?

[doug deeper]

you are, single notes work best.
its only good if its what you're looking for!
i for one love this sound!

[LucifersTrip]

music machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJR_KGZO4U0

a little closer to some of there other tunes though, this ones a little raw.

i'll definitely try yours...and thanx again for the 22k suggestion to the right of the 350k on the fuzzrite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEEi2FvptSw&feature=related

[LucifersTrip]

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uquMUIC6GXY
  Hafta say the Holding Company knew well how to use Fuzz in a most gut-wrenching manner, works quite well against a backdrop of solid rythms made from fine artistry/musicianship.
  The Electric Prunes and Strawberry Alarm Clock made some interesting entries, fuzz w/tremolo and other 'oddities' in the mix.
  I find it's a bit hard to define psychadelic in music, Fripp did some flipp runs with King Crimson, 21rst Century Schitzoid Man...

I have to throw in my vote for the almighty Cucumber (love this straight thru but it's brutal at the :58 mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xY20Ec56ag

and  Ron Wray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLG1KgKbHg

honorable mention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQewqen1LA&feature=related