Quick Bazz Fuss question

[Jango]

Hey everybody, first post here on DIY
I'm going to be ordering the parts for my first pedal soon(tonight, hopefully) but I had a quick question before I ordered it.  I'm building the first schematic here: http://www.home-wrecker.com/bazz.html and was going to build my bass player one, too.  Do I need to change any values to use it for bass?

[Jango]

Scratch the first question.  Is this parts list enough for 2 bazz fuss?
0611A Jack, DC Power, 2.0 mm BOSS
0303 Box - Taiwanese 'B' Size
0602A Jack, 1/4 in. Stereo Neutrik #NYS230
1400 Capacitor, Electrolytic, Axial 16 V 1 mf. - 100 mf. (4.7 mf.)
1102 Capacitor, Panasonic ECQ-B .056 mf. - .1 mf. (.1 mf.)
0401 Pad-Per-Hole Board Small Single-Side
2015 Transistor 2N5088
2208 Diode 1N914
0904 43K to 220K - Individual (100K)
1001 Alpha Single-Gang 24mm, Linear & Audio Taper, Solder Terms (100K Audio)
0204 Switch - Taiwan X-Wing DPDT

2 of everything except im getting 1 DC Power Jack, and 4 1/4in jacks

All ordered off smallbearelec.com

[Ripthorn]

I'm just working from memory, but it looks good to me.  This is a fun project, that's for sure.

[Jango]

39.55 a decent price for all that?

[bobp1339]

I usually get the 0611 or the 0611D 2.1mm dc jack, and the 1005A 16mm pots.

Plus, since the main item costs here are shipping and the enclosures, I would suggest getting few extra transistors and resistors and trying out the Deluxe Bazz Fuss at the bottom of the page.  You can use 2 - 2n5088 (or even a 2n5088 and a 2n5089) for the darlington transistor.

I have found that the deluxe sounds really good. I built mine 3 years ago and it has a perm home on my pedalboard.

And yes, $39 for 2 pedals, including enclosures is a good price.

Have Fun!!!

[Kearns892]

You may want to consider some of the variations of the Bazz Fuss, many of which can be found at the same site you got your schematic. I really like the Darlington configuration when two 5088s are run together. You could try it and see if you like it. A volume knob might also be nice.

[Jango]

I'll probably mod it eventually, but my current budget was $40, so I couldn't add anything else XD

Bob, what are the differences between the parts I ordered and the ones you get?  I'm a complete newb when it come to pedal building, so it would help to know for the future.

[SirBlend12]

Jango, the 24 mm pots will be harder to deal with, as far as space is concerned in a B size box. The 16 mm will give you more room (especially if you're going for one of the deluxe versions as some have suggested, which I believe have a few extra).

Also, I think the DC jacks he mentioned are a little smaller (I can't remember all these part numbers) and give, again, more room.

For the transistors, the 5088 and 5089 in combination work as a Darlington transistor. I personally haven't built that version (yet), but my super-basic version sounds great. If you double the circuit into itself, well, it gets pretty muffy! I've got mine in a 1590A, making for a nifty little pocket fuzz. It's definitely a quick and easy build and for being is simple as it is, it's somewhat surprising how well it turns out. I'm diggin' mine!

Good luck and have fun!

[mac]

If you are using it for bass just increase the input and output caps to 4.7uf or so.
But the most important thing is to adjust collector resistor with a trimmer since the optimal bias point is very dependant on transistor's gain.

mac

[bobp1339]

The DC jacks that I listed use a 9/16" round hole. The one you listed needs a square hole... For me it's just quicker/easier to drill the round hole.

And kudos for coming in under budget! 

[Al Heeley]

Plus, since the main item costs here are shipping and the enclosures, I would suggest getting few extra transistors and resistors and trying out the Deluxe Bazz Fuss at the bottom of the page.  You can use 2 - 2n5088 (or even a 2n5088 and a 2n5089) for the darlington transistor.
I have found that the deluxe sounds really good. I built mine 3 years ago and it has a perm home on my pedalboard.

What is the audio transformer's purpose in the Deluxe circuit? It says its not needed if NO buggered effects preceed the circuit, but I see its only using the primary coils, presumably as a little inductor loop? What exactly does this do to the circuit?
If you put 2 x MPAS13 darlingtons in sequence would it make it huge and nasty?

[bobp1339]

I never put the transformer in mine, so I can't give you an answer on that...

[Jango]

Square hole?  That sounds like it'll be fun...though it'll just be my pedal; bassist gets a battery clip.  Assuming there's room for a battery in that size of enclosure?

[bobp1339]

With a bazz fuss, yes, you should be able to fit a battery in there.

[mac]

What is the audio transformer's purpose in the Deluxe circuit? It says its not needed if NO buggered effects preceed the circuit, but I see its only using the primary coils, presumably as a little inductor loop? What exactly does this do to the circuit?
If you put 2 x MPAS13 darlingtons in sequence would it make it huge and nasty?

The inductor makes the Bazz Fuss believe that anything before it is a guitar coil. This is useful also with a Fuzz Face with a wah before it.

mac

[Jango]

Back again with another question!  Yaaaaayy...
I've got all the parts in front of me, pretty much ready to solder.  however, i'm having powering problems.  I want to use ONLY a DC power jack on one of the pedals i'm building, and I can't find a schematic that shows that.  Could somebody draw up a diagram of how to do it?

[Kearns892]

Since I don't have permission to from Dano to post this diagram I will just link to it. Just use ctrl F and search for Figure 8.1. If you wire the box up like that, but leave off the battery snap you should be fine.
http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/SchematicToReality/

[Jango]

Looks good, but how would I wire it up using a DPDT?

[Kearns892]

If you want true bypass leave out the LED and wire as shown in the FAQ for DPDT

[Jango]

Tested it last night, at first the volume was lower after turning the pedal on, but I figured out that I had put the transistor in backwards.  Now, however, nothing happens when I turn it on.  The sound comes through exactly the same, and I know i'm sending it through the board.  Any possible problems?