Bazz Fuss Diodes

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 01:55:40 AM

I love how simple this circuit is and I'm waiting on an order of breadboards and components (impatiently, I might add) so I can dig in and scratch the itch to tinker with it...
Has anyone experimented with back-to-back diodes with this circuit...I've taught myself to read schematics to some degree and I'm not sure if it would work...with a back to back arrangement the polarity forms it own loop...hence the inpatients for a breadboard

You all have been an invaluable source of information and once I get my hands dirty I hope to repay the debt...
My best,
Jeffrey

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 02:44:22 AM

i'll probably be an in-patient before long

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 03:02:58 AM

"i'll probably be an in-patient before long"
lame joke about my sanity at 3:00am

glops · November 14, 2009, 03:16:49 AM

What do you mean by back to back diodes. I have been playing around with the BF on my breadboard for a couple of weeks. I first started out
with the MPSA13 version with the 914 and then chained it to an LPB and added another diode ala Bazz Fuzz to the LPB. Then I added a BF to the end of that and tried a bunch of different diodes in all of the positions. It has been very fun, a real easy circuit to experiment with....

runmikeyrun · November 14, 2009, 09:31:59 AM

That circuit gets really fun when you set up a darlington configuration on the transistors and cascade two of them together.

mac · November 14, 2009, 09:53:15 AM

check out my mods at my gallery.
bazz fuss bias depends a lot on gain so you have to adjust collector resistor to find the sweet spot.

mac

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 11:29:04 AM

That's already a lot of cool information and ideas...what I meant with "back to back" was two diodes side by side instead of the single one in a parallel configuration...i'm not sure if that would even work?
Great stuff!!!
Thanks all,
Jeffrey

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 02:41:36 PM

Two diodes in a parallel configuration instead of the single one...that's what I was trying to say...

glops · November 14, 2009, 04:39:28 PM

Not sure if that would do anything but try it out. Since the circuit has such a low amount of components it is really easy to to add parts and experiment with on a breadboard. I wish it was the first circuit I tried. The first ever circuit I put on a breadboard was the Dirty Sanchez which
is similar to a Bazz Fuss but a little more complicated with the mods.

If you are going to experiment with the Bazz Fuzz, try the early versions first and then build the Deluxe Bazz Fuzz, which is two BFs in series but the first one uses a silicon diode and the second a germanium diode. It will just give you ideas, etc. I played around with Schottky diodes, as well, and those can sound neat.

mac · November 14, 2009, 05:05:39 PM

imho instead of adding stuff to a BF i'd build a big muff.
or build a BF and try boosters and distortions before it.

mac

a soBer Newt · November 14, 2009, 06:15:44 PM

has anyone tried adding warp control as shown here http://www.muzique.com/lab/warp.htm in place of the diode?

JEPorter · November 14, 2009, 08:00:01 PM

that warp control idea looks real cool...i will breadboard those when i get my components and boards...i will post any and all results of course

Jeffrey

nbabmf · November 30, 2009, 05:02:38 AM

I built the Buzz Box this week - Bazz Fuss with a silicon diode into a Bazz Fuss with a germanium diode. I used 100k resistors and 10uF electrolytic caps as listed on www.home-wrecker.com. I don't have the germanium yet so I used an LED. The diodes and transistors are all socketed, so I played around for a few hours. My favorite combination so far uses 2N222's with a yellow LED in the first stage and a 1N4148 in the second stage. The other way around is a bit louder overall, but there's no shortage of gain. It's a little sputtery, but I think that has more to do with how much signal is going in, as the harder I pick, the more saturated the sound.

mac · November 30, 2009, 06:09:24 AM

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has anyone tried adding warp control as shown here http://www.muzique.com/lab/warp.htm in place of the diode?

yes, a pot in series with the diodes but in a big muff stage which is somehow similar, might work here. and a 222 cap from the junction of the pot and the diodes to gnd, the order matters: iirc collector to diodes to pot to base, cap from junction to gnd. very synthetic fx as you increase the pot value.

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I built the Buzz Box this week - Bazz Fuss with a silicon diode into a Bazz Fuss with a germanium diode. I used 100k resistors and 10uF electrolytic caps as listed on www.home-wrecker.com. I don't have the germanium yet so I used an LED. The diodes and transistors are all socketed, so I played around for a few hours. My favorite combination so far uses 2N222's with a yellow LED in the first stage and a 1N4148 in the second stage. The other way around is a bit louder overall, but there's no shortage of gain. It's a little sputtery, but I think that has more to do with how much signal is going in, as the harder I pick, the more saturated the sound.

the first stage hits the second very hard. you can try adding aresistor, say 10k or bigger to reduce the signal avoiding saturation.

mac

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