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which fuzz is it?

Started by Br4d13y, January 07, 2010, 01:03:17 AM

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Br4d13y

ok, i have thios fuzz sound in my head (who doesnt have one) and i need some help finding an adequite project to produce it.
but as always i will have to "describe" it. blegh
but here it goes.

i'm looking for the kind of sound like in american woman.
smooth, smooth sustain, but still fuzzy. all i ever find nowadays is people wanting a "velcro" type fuzz, having short decay. i need like the opposite.
any help is greatly apprecated. ;D
freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4

nbabmf

What about a Fuzz Face hit with a boost?

Mark Hammer

The "American Woman" sound is a garnet herzog going into another amp.  The Herzog is pushed to the brink, and it in turn pushes the amp to the brink.  My guess is that you want a double-clipper circuit, which immediately directs you to a Big Muff with whatever mods end up producing the particular EQ you like. 

jacobyjd

Sounds like you're in need of a Hot Silicon Fuzz.

Last night I was playing with mine, and I was actually running it with the fuzz control @ minimum in fat mode, tone at 1 o'clock. It made for a slightly fuzzy overdrive. For a 2nd 'channel', I hit it with a serious boost from my NPN boost. It was pretty awesome, and not big-muff-y, but with the same kind of sustain.

However...the HSF will probably do what you want all by itself :)
Warsaw, Indiana's poetic love rock band: http://www.bellwethermusic.net

petemoore

#4
  I tried a bit of the Herzog.
 Sounded like a super-boosted up, damped back down, I guess distorted..not that nice.
 Maybe I wasn't luck enough, or didn't have the tube/speaker output turned the right way [up]...
 ''Has a live production of that exact tone ever happened?'' is the question I ended up circling while otherwise pretending that the noise floor wasn't >1/2 as loud as the source signal.
  The other question that cycled was ''really?''...the super high tension of an amp output was made to somehow ''hold perfectly still''?...referring to the lead-tone.
  I get the idea maybe somehow the noise floor wasn't so 'low-ish' for that type of high tension in low level signal path, that's why the notes are closely spaced [to cover the painters 'canvas noise'], but it does sound as though perhaps some of a great noise floor tone was included in the lead track final mix, just beginning to creep in the mix as the last notes sustain fades before being turned off just prior to..the huge vocal line takes over.
  Rythm chops on that tune are Tremolo'd and Reverbed, sorta clean.
  The HSF is a fine suggestion for getting the lead-tone, compressey, fuzzy to a fault in frequency...cool 'shift' tone, also try the slide intro to "You Shook Me" with it.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

Br4d13y

freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4

bumblebee

A LPB into a FF is great, make it all Silicon with a hFE of 500-800. It sustains for ages and is a cool sounding fuzz.
Dont add the fuzz control in the typical ff location, add it between the LPB and FF (a 100kB pot to a 1 kresistor to ground).

anchovie

Quote from: Br4d13y on January 08, 2010, 12:13:28 AM
schematic for the HSF?

There's a link to it in the second thread that comes back if you type hot silicon fuzz into the forum search box. ;)
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jacobyjd

Also, you'll find it (with a sound clip) if you search the gallery as well :)
Warsaw, Indiana's poetic love rock band: http://www.bellwethermusic.net

Br4d13y


Ya found the sound clip, I like the sound a lot. Now I just have to find time to make it. ;D
freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4

Kearns892

I must say I love the sound of HSF. It's smooth and tame enough that I can use it for so much more than most fuzzes. Worth building