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Started by itay4x4, January 09, 2010, 06:13:02 AM

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itay4x4

Hi everyone

I was wondering what kind of wiring shall i use while building stompbox or any other electronic gear? and where can i order them

Thanks

punkin

Antique Electronics has 22 AWG 600 volt wire that's pretty nice an nicely priced for 50' rolls. That's what I'm using....comes in a bunch of colours. It's cheaper than going to Radio Shack for a similarly sized roll and a lesser product.

The main website http://www.tubesandmore.com/
The product I'm referring to listed under wire then 600 volt hook up wire http://www.tubesandmore.com/scripts/foxweb.dll/catalog@d:/dfs/elevclients/cemirror/ELEVATOR.FXP?PAGE=SUBCAT&SEARCH_TREE01=14_WIRE&SEARCH_TREE02=04_600V
Ernie Ball Music Man - JPM, THD Univalve, Grace Big Daddy, PepperShredder, BSIAB2, FireFly Amplifier.

itay4x4

What about shielded cables/wires , do i need to them to reduce noise?

punkin

Not usually. I've only needed them in cases where I had high-gain pedals where noise was a problem. If you do, consider salvaging some old RCA cables or other discarded cables. Even some old headphone cables have a center conductor and shield.

Anyone else?....thoughts?



Steph
Ernie Ball Music Man - JPM, THD Univalve, Grace Big Daddy, PepperShredder, BSIAB2, FireFly Amplifier.

itay4x4

I'm not sure my junk RCA will do the job, though i ha vent tried and this is only a thought

I had the impression that stompbox and preamp need to have some special wiring to reduce noise, and to "sound better"

Thanks

davent

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StereoKills

I usually use Alpha 3050 series wire (24 AWG stranded) although it's a bit on the pricey side.
http://www.mouser.com/Wire-Cable/Wire-Single-Conductor/_/N-5ggsZscv7?P=1z0juksZ1yzxt43&Keyword=alpha+3050&FS=True

For shielded wiring I use some vintage cloth wrap wire I picked up somewhere, I think it was Small Bear, but they don't seem to have it anymore....
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"

petemoore

What about shielded cables/wires , do i need to them to reduce noise?
  Good question, varied applications = varied answers.
  No, Not unless they help [and don't make things worse] is the short sort of answer.
  The box is shielded, this pretty much takes care of ''X and Y wave'' from outside, you can almost count on these outside interferences. [lol] not to get into the box. [much]. Hardly ever, FF may need something added to the circuit to kill RF. [etc.].
  Inside, the circuits themselves generally don't have enough RF, EMI or other 'wave' output to cross-feed.
  A great place for cross feed to cause noticable anything to oscillation is between 'high tension' and sensative places. The output has the large voltage swing sometimes, the input is very rarely larger than the output, often is input>Gain>output.
  Very high gain pedal may even have enough induction to make the proximity of bypass switch lugs a problem too.
Sensative input, high gain output is a fine place to attempt to create induction that matters, running the input wire along close to the output wire for a ways may even create enough of a feedback loop to make nasty oscillating feedback. Use the short wire/cross sensative with HT method. Any wire that 'looks' like it might have electrons jumping off it, reduce the induction to the sensative wire by X crossing them, no parallel runs.
  Example if say you have a coil inside the shielded enclosure and you have to move either the circuit or the coil away or somehow separate them from eachother.
  So... there's noise 'there', whether it matters 'here' is the current map, the new map hopefully routes high currents or any 'source' [Fl-light condenser, AC house wiring, saw, TV, iffy-shielding, better cabling, etcetera-ing] of non wanted signal input away from...getting in the signal path.
  Some of these frequencies are there, all of the time, universally regardless of location, you just wouldn't know it 'till they're noticed, amplifying is a great way to make ''them'' more noticable, even when you're trying to, or you're trying not to.
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