Warped vinyl pitch modulation?

Started by mr.adambeck, March 09, 2010, 05:56:52 PM

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mr.adambeck

Hey all, I'm interested in getting a subtle pitch modulation, similar to the sound of a warped record.  Like a slow, shallow sine wave modulating the pitch.  Does anyone know of any circuits that could do this or have any ideas of ways I could tweak something to get this effect?

Thanks!

Strategy

Oh yeah. The Clari(not) Cubed would be a good one for you. Using a PT2399 its sort of superficially would appear to be a chorus pedal but actually to me its sort of more of a pitch warble/melt/warp machine. Wonderful stuff, from drippy vibrato to real wooze. Search the forum for the threads on it there are some sound files. As Rick Holt has just generated a PCB layout I intend to build this one very very soon.

With a ramp LFO instead of triangle you could likely get the assymetrical-but-repeating warble typical of warped records.

Its not a DIY item but SnazzyFX (forum member Dan Snazelle) is issuing a pedal called "Wow & Flutter" intended to emulate the pitch warble of damaged/aged tape. Similar to vinyl warp.

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brett

33rpm = 0.55 Hz
The classic warp is the "bowed" record, with 2 x bends per rotation = 1.1 Hz.
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mr.adambeck

Thanks for the suggestions!  I dunno, the clarinot seems a bit more than I'm looking for.  I really just want a subtle sine wave pitch detuning, at 100% wet.  hmmmm.....

armdnrdy

You can add an LFO to an existing delay pedal without too much work to get that effect.

A small daughter board and two controls, Depth and Speed.
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Mark Hammer

As with many perceptual phenomena, the slower the change, the more pronounced the change has to be in order to be noticeable.  Although simply lifting the clean signal in a phaser, and using only phase-shifted signal, will produce discernible vibrato, you have to crank the rate to hear it.  Same goes for using only the delay signal in a chorus or flanger.  The pitch wobble is certainly quite audible in all 3 of those, but if the sweep rate is slow, the sweep width has to be up, and the amount of pitch change created has to be appreciable.

I mention this to note that if you want to mimic something that doesn't happen terribly fast, you'll need to plan around having "enough" modulation.

Strategy

I just built an older Madbean version of the Boss CE-2 ("pork barrel" by Madbean)

It integrates many of the published mods including one that kills the dry signal so you get just vibrato. It has some high cut and gives a very musical warble. Quite like a record player with warped record, or even more so, it's very much like a tape deck running low on battery. I used it on Rhodes piano at a recent band practice, sounded amazing like I was instantly giving a sad vibrato rhodes vibe right off an old tape. Very vintage sounding

It was a complex build just for a chorus but this dry-kill switching element really makes it extra nice!

May make a nice option if you want just "mild" warble
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moosapotamus

Similar to the pork barrel, I built and heavily modified a small clone chorus a number of years ago (wavy gravy, on my website). The sound clips I made were all prety extreme, but it certainly has the capability to get quite subtle sounds as well. So, maybe another option would be to pick up a used eh small clone on ebay for relatively cheap, and just mod it. I think you would want to be able to kill the dry signal and also add a few different timing cap values to be able to get differend degrees of warble. That would be a lot easier than building most any other chorus pedal from scratch.

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bwanasonic

I used to get a similar effect with my Ibanez 505 chorus by sticking a dummy plug in one out to get a 100% wet signal. I think it was more of a square wave, but it was sufficiently seasick inducing.