18volt bipolar power supply

Started by caspercody, March 16, 2010, 11:04:21 AM

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caspercody

I need a 18volt bipolar power supply. Can I connect two 9 volt batteries together to get this? If I connect the negative of the first battery to the positive of the second battery would I end up with, +18 volts at the positive of the first battery, -18 volts at the negative of the second battery, and ground at the connection of the two batteries (the positive and negative connection mentioned earlier)?

I do have a 12 volt power supply could I use this as a bipolar power supply? It has a positive and negative lead, but no ground?



doc_drop

You will only get +18v by connecting 2 9v batteries in series, not a bipolar supply. The negative side is at 0v. By convention this is also called ground, but it doesn't have to be.

I believe that to get a bipolar supply you need 2 more batteries. Ground in this case is between the 2 pairs, +18v on one end and -18v on the other. But that's a lot of batteries... Please someone correct me if I am wrong.

The negative lead on a 12v supply corresponds with ground/0v.

caspercody

Thanks doc_drop!

Is there a circuit out there that I could get 15 to 18 volts bi polar using 9 volt batteries?

I know there is a circuit using AC power, but want to stay away from AC if possible.


caspercody

If I were to use Gaussmarkovs bipolar 9v power supply (based on RG Keens Max1044 circuit), and use two 9volt batteries (in series) would that work to get 18 volts bipolar output?

caspercody

Okay I read the data sheet on the Max1004, and it will only take max 10 volts. So, looking at RG Keens charge pump converter, I see how to get a bipolar 9 volts from a single 9 volt battery. And he also shows how to get higher voltage from a 9 volt battery.

Does anyone know if one could do both? Some how use the charge pump converter to get around 18 volts out, and as a bipolar supply from the 9 volt battery?

isildur100

Hi, You might want to consider a power supply like that one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270489613849&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

It offers +/-24V dc. Couple that with voltage regulators to obtain +/-18V and you are all set. I have not tried one but was considering it.

Anyways, take a look.

John

caspercody

Looks really nice, but not bipolar.

But thanks for the information!

jrem

Look at a NJM2360 DC to DC converter.  Use it as a charge pump.  Once you get the output rail-to-rail desired you can split it for a bi-polar supply.

isildur100

Quote from: caspercody on March 17, 2010, 12:36:49 PM
Looks really nice, but not bipolar.

But thanks for the information!

Look closer, it is +/-24V, look at the picture of the device, you will see and there are + and - connectors on the thing.




MikeH

There's a +/- power supply project at music from outer space:

http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/POWERSUPPLY2009/POWERSUPPLY2009.php

edit: oh wait- that only goes to +/- 15v.  Nevermind
"Sounds like a Fab Metal to me." -DougH

caspercody

Thanks MikeH! 15 volts is fine, I will look into this.

caspercody

I did find a bi polar voltage doubler using a LT1054 chip, if anyone is interested?