Dr Boogey (Gaussmarkov) - Need to give it more bass.

Started by ghostsauce, May 31, 2010, 04:13:10 PM

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ghostsauce

Heya, I need to pick your brains again... I still love the DB I built a while back, but I've had a hard time using it in a live situation because it just doesn't seem to cut it. The problem being that there just isn't enough bass output. When I built it, I had to replace C11 and C12 with 300nF caps instead of the 220nF it asked for. Is it possible that that is the reason?  I still don't have any 220nF's, but I have a bunch of other caps kicking around.. any suggestions to which I should try swapping, and for what values?

Brymus

Try making the bass pot a 250 or 500k instead and see how that sounds to you.
Cheers,Bryan
I'm no EE or even a tech,just a monkey with a soldering iron that can read,and follow instructions. ;D
My now defunct band http://www.facebook.com/TheZedLeppelinExperience

ghostsauce

..I don't get it, wouldn't that lower the bass?  Also, I don't have an extra 500k to spare I think.. could I just jam a 500K resistor in front of it somewhere?

deadastronaut

ive built 3 versions of the boogie..great pedal...but yeah it lacks bass on all of em...

and has loads of treble...the eq could be much better balanced i agree...

there are a lot of threads about moddding the eq on the boogie...

there are threads that will show you how to bypass the tone stack completely...

i use a graphic after my boogie and it sounds proper..........thats my suggestions...

rob.

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ghostsauce

You can bypass the tone stack?  Wow, awesome.  Definitely going to look that up!

ghostsauce

Wow, ok I found my problem. I did the math wrong, I didn't put 300nF caps in C11 and C12, I put 30nF's... so yeah.. I still don't have the 220nFs to replace it with, but I put a 500nF in C12 and it already boosted it to a very appreciable level. Gonna stick a really big one in C11 and see what happens.  I'll post my findings for the next guy with this issue

Brymus

Quote from: ghostsauce on May 31, 2010, 08:59:55 PM
Wow, ok I found my problem. I did the math wrong, I didn't put 300nF caps in C11 and C12, I put 30nF's...
:icon_eek:  Uhm yeah ,that would do it all right.
Glad you found that,it would take alot to compensate for that.
I actually did what was suggested by reducing the bass early on to remove the flab,then adding it back later.
Its my favorite distortion pedal for the time being,my band mates really dig it too.
I'm no EE or even a tech,just a monkey with a soldering iron that can read,and follow instructions. ;D
My now defunct band http://www.facebook.com/TheZedLeppelinExperience

ghostsauce

Reducing the bass? Well I wouldn't go that far, I put in a 1uF (1000nF) in C11 instead of the 220nF it called for, and I do have more bass than I'll ever need, but not by much. I'm dialing in the perfect amount when it's cranked to around 9(out of 10). I love it, and it's not 'flabby' like I've heard it can be. It's tight and not boomy, and it sounds creamy which is exactly what I wanted. Tonight I also tried the 500k for the Gain pot instead of the 1M, and I gotta say, man did that make a difference.  This pedal still has ridiculous gain, but now i can really fine-tune the low end of it so I can get that chunky growl that makes James Hetfield wet his pants. I dial in the gain to about 20% and it sounds amazing. Perfect for chunky rhythm and singing lead, and not fizzy or boomy or flabby. The chording is very articulated and you can hear every string resonating.  This thing is pure win.

I'll probably be toying with it daily for the next week, so I might end up fine-tuning it a bit. Looking forward to trying it out with the rest of the band to see how it mixes!

deadastronaut

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when you've finished tinkering post up a soundclip....

its always good to hear a mod!...cheers rob.

@bryan...how did you lose the bass and then add it after?...curious..cheers man. rob.
https://www.youtube.com/user/100roberthenry
https://deadastronaut.wixsite.com/effects

chasm reverb/tremshifter/faze filter/abductor II delay/timestream reverb/dreamtime delay/skinwalker hi gain dist/black triangle OD/ nano drums/space patrol fuzz//

Brymus

By tweaking the bypass and coupling caps and the bass section of the tonestack.
I'm no EE or even a tech,just a monkey with a soldering iron that can read,and follow instructions. ;D
My now defunct band http://www.facebook.com/TheZedLeppelinExperience

ghostsauce

Strange.  Yesterday I tried to record some sound clips with the speaker on my iMac and it kept sounding like there was a phaser on it. The pedal sounds amazing and it's only gotten better since trying a Tung-Sol tube in my amp.. I'll try to get a clip soon, I just need to figure out a different way.

ghostsauce

#11
Hmm, starting to think the weird phase sound is because I had the fan going when I was recording. The mic on the iMac is very sensitive and sounds like it has some heavy compression on it or something. It's picking up my pick noises from 8feet away with a cranked amp sitting in front of it. Anyways, all my gear is at the church until probably next week so I'll post this sound clip anyway because you can still hear it clearly during some parts. The boogey sounds incredible! I'm playing a PRS Singlecut through a Boss CS-3, then the dr boogey, and then into the clean channel with cranked gain on my Marshall (Avt150h).  This pedal might steer me from spending crazy money on a tube amp after all. Please excuse my playing, I was just goofing around.

http://ghostsauce.net/random/DrBoogey-StrangePhaseSoundOMG.m4a

Boogey settings are Vol: 65%, Pres: 75%, Gain: 20%, Bass: 100%, Mid: 55%, Treb: 60%