simple 2 knob hi gain distortion..collaboration?

[deadastronaut]

nice one keeb!......now lets play the bastard...

rob.

[arma61]

hi, this is my version of the B...d  (ExpessPCB and ExpressSCH for those who want to "play" with it)

(it's related to page2 schem)

    .SCH file

    .PCB file




Ciao

[mhartington]

Tone stacks?

great sounding pedal but im looking for suggestions in tone stacks. Maybe a three band Marshall tone stack or something similar. Any suggestions out there?

[caspercody]

Baxandall tonestack.

[Scruffie]

Baxandall tonestack.

Seconded.

[WGTP]

Sort of late, but have you seen these?   Check out the Rambler, Smokey Amp and Stupidty Box.  Great site.  

http://web.archive.org/web/20050119104631/www.geocities.com/tpe123/folkurban/fuzz/snippets.html

Has anyone tried the JRC version?  Tim seems to think that is the way to go.  Radio Shack used to have them.  

[deadastronaut]

Baxandall tonestack.

Seconded.

good to see more dudes onboard with this..

@ scruffie . would the baxandall tonestack give a good classic scoop to it!..?

[Scruffie]

Baxandall tonestack.

Seconded.

good to see more dudes onboard with this..

@ scruffie . would the baxandall tonestack give a good classic scoop to it!..?

Yes and the nice thing is, with the right values you can have it give you a scoop at some settings but with both knobs at say 8/9 o'clock, flat mids... I might have the values for such a tone-stack, i'll have a look, or you can play about in Duncans yourself.

[deadastronaut]

Baxandall tonestack.

Seconded.

good to see more dudes onboard with this..

@ scruffie . would the baxandall tonestack give a good classic scoop to it!..?

Yes and the nice thing is, with the right values you can have it give you a scoop at some settings but with both knobs at say 8/9 o'clock, flat mids... I might have the values for such a tone-stack, i'll have a look, or you can play about in Duncans yourself.

sounds cool....can you post it up here..so we can all play about with it..cheers man. rob.

edit: just had a look around...baxandall..bass and treble only? no mid?..

[deadastronaut]

@ armando...
so you went with the 'dreadnought ' then...less offensive eh?...ha ha..cool.

[Scruffie]

Baxandall tonestack.

Seconded.

good to see more dudes onboard with this..

@ scruffie . would the baxandall tonestack give a good classic scoop to it!..?

Yes and the nice thing is, with the right values you can have it give you a scoop at some settings but with both knobs at say 8/9 o'clock, flat mids... I might have the values for such a tone-stack, i'll have a look, or you can play about in Duncans yourself.

sounds cool....can you post it up here..so we can all play about with it..cheers man. rob.

edit: just had a look around...baxandall..bass and treble only? no mid?..

Yeah that's what a Baxandall is, the two have an effect on the mids though depending on setting and unlike the Big Muff Tone control don't suffer the annoying See-Saw Effect of Treble means no Bass and Bass means no Treble. It's nice because it's simple and has a good amount of control for 2 knobs, if you wanted you could add in a switch to scoop or flatten the mids too.

[deadastronaut]

got ya!...there is no 'baxandall' in the tsc though!...or am i missing something?.

would be nice to actually hear the baxandall on it, if anyone does it!...

i have a small breadboard with a bass/mid/treb tonestack on it for such experimental purposes...i'll mess around and see what happens.

NB: the initial idea was to have a 'simple' distortion without the trimmings of a tonestack, just to get the distortion 'right' first....
but now that is done it would be nice to have more control i agree...'the super b''''''d..(dreadnought).ha ha...

i'm guessing the output 1M on the distortion would have to be removed though, to lift the tonestack...otherwise output would be to quiet yes?...

[Scruffie]

got ya!...there is no 'baxandall' in the tsc though!...or am i missing something?.

It's labelled 'James'.

[deadastronaut]

got ya!...there is no 'baxandall' in the tsc though!...or am i missing something?.

It's labelled 'James',

got ya!..

[arma61]

....if all we are looking is " that kind of sound with that mid scoop and that quantity of treble and bass" it shouldn't be hard to have a "fix" tonestack, I mean ( and here you live-player can correct me) you are not going to change tone setting every song or two on stage, isn't it ?

....so once you've got on a breadbord the tone you like (combined with your axe and your amp)  just stick the right value of res and caps and you'll have your 2 knobs distortion with the tone "you were looking for", though I don't know (yet!) how to build a tonestack with fixed component, but that should not be that hard.... ok if it's build for friend/selling that's another story....



Dreadnought...... yeah I like the "name" and I like also how it sound when pronounced by you English native speaker! 

[deadastronaut]

hi armando.
yeah the distortion sounds great on the amp anyway..using the amps eq..i agree!.

nice to have a little control at your feet too..when i was messing with it originally i messed with changing caps to best suit my
axe and amp...other setups may need a bit of eq tweaking...according to their axe/amp though!.

'dreadnought' the battleship. pronounced in english...dered -nawt...

other useful english phrases.:as pronounced:
cuppa tee= cup of tea
bluddy el=bloody hell
get ahht the fahhhkin moata= could you please exit the vehicle

heres the built vero..tiny eh!.. (my cat decided to tap it onto the floor after i sprayed it.
thats why its a rough finish....

[WGTP]

Are you going to put the tonestack at the end, or between the Jfets and 386?   

IIRC someone rescaled a tonestack to work at the end of the 386 because of it's low output impedance maybe.   

[deadastronaut]

Are you going to put the tonestack at the end, or between the Jfets and 386?  

IIRC someone rescaled a tonestack to work at the end of the 386 because of it's low output impedance maybe.  

hi. at the end of the circuit!....on this vero...
do you mean this?
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=83372.0

[WGTP]

Looks like you have already done a vero for one.  For simplicity, I'd recomment the BMP stack.  
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=65308.0
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=71680.0

That one looks scaled by a factor of 10.  The other one uses a factor of 15 IIRC.

[deadastronaut]

cheers wgtp.

yep i also built the bi muff tones stack...didnt really get on with that.cheers though man.

some guys suggested the baxandall..havent tried it yet..

im after a good mid scooped control, and not to trebly...been looking at the tsc , i also noticed daniel schwartz said
what he sees on the screen with the tsc doesnt sound like it in reality...so i think its going to be a bit of trial and error on various
types of stack, with modifications to suit my ears...any other suggestions welcome though!..

cheers rob.