1590BB-TALL - anybody?

[Joseph]

Anybody used the BB-tall enclosure? Its a  little shorter than a 1590C which I like. I'm looking for a little more room in the box, thinking about building my own 8-knob EQ. Any reviews on these boxes would be great.

http://www.mammothelectronics.com/4S1590BBT-p/500-1004.htm


I purchased the 4S1590BB pre-drilled / "granny smith" and it was awesome. i Was about to purchase a few BB-talls, but wanted some of your insight. Thoughts?

-Jo

[MetalGuy]

There's no such thing as 1590BB-Tall. At least not in Hammond's catalog. Closest to that is 1590C which is 53mm tall.

[Earthscum]

There's no such thing as 1590BB-Tall. At least not in Hammond's catalog. Closest to that is 1590C which is 53mm tall.

Try the link. It's a 4-Site box, not Hammond.

[Joseph]

yea sorry Metalguy, I didn't specify.

Mammoth has the 4Site Enclosure 4S1590BB-Tall

4.67" x 3.68" x 1.95" (119 x 94 x 49mm)

a little shorter than the 1590C, but looks like enough room to stack some boards in there if necessary.

-J

[smallbearelec]

Anybody used the BB-tall enclosure? Its a  little shorter than a 1590C which I like. -Jo

Until now, if you wanted something taller than the BB but same length and width, you could buy the Hammond 1590C or its Sovtek clone. I have long stocked the latter, but it is still fairly pricey because the tooling is not mine. 4Site/Mammoth made a good choice to have their own version done.

I will have around Thanksgiving my first lot of an enclosure that I think of as the "125-BB."  It is the same length and width as the BB but 1.4" tall like the 125-B. A couple of boutiques suggested the idea, and I have run with it because I have the money to invest in a mold.

It's important to realize that the "BB" and similar enclosures were emphatically Not designed specifically for stompboxes. They became standards because they were what was already available that was workable for the purpose and available from distributors. As Small Bear--and others--have opened up the market for small-volume pedal-making--it's become feasible to get some things made-to-order without worrying that they have to sell in the gazillions. I hope that the 125-BB will prove as popular as my "no internal rib" 125-B.

Regards
SD

[Joseph]

Cool. Thanks SD. I will definitely check out the 125-BB when it becomes available. Thanks for the heads-up. I will check out the 4S1590BB-tall in the meantime and see how it goes.

-jo

[LucifersTrip]

marmora turned me on to this place. smooth, rounded corner junction boxes without knockouts. they have standard 1.5" deep but they also have deeper ones great for stacking components [4" x 4" x 2 1/8"]:

http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/4-Square-Junction-Boxes/2-1-8-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/52171-BLNK


They also have 6" x 6" x 1.5" which are amazing for larger projects...
http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/6-Square-Junction-Boxes/1-1-2-2-1-2-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/6150-BLNK

...again no knockouts

[Joseph]

marmora turned me on to this place. smooth, rounded corner junction boxes without knockouts. they have standard 1.5" deep but they also have deeper ones great for stacking components [4" x 4" x 2 1/8"]:

http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/4-Square-Junction-Boxes/2-1-8-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/52171-BLNK


They also have 6" x 6" x 1.5" which are amazing for larger projects...
http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/6-Square-Junction-Boxes/1-1-2-2-1-2-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/6150-BLNK

...again no knockouts

what's the quality  like on the garvins. Is it the A380 aluminum and is it the same thickness as the 4Site boxes? Do they powdercoat as well?

[LucifersTrip]

marmora turned me on to this place. smooth, rounded corner junction boxes without knockouts. they have standard 1.5" deep but they also have deeper ones great for stacking components [4" x 4" x 2 1/8"]:

http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/4-Square-Junction-Boxes/2-1-8-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/52171-BLNK


They also have 6" x 6" x 1.5" which are amazing for larger projects...
http://www.garvinindustries.com/Electrical-Junction-Boxes/6-Square-Junction-Boxes/1-1-2-2-1-2-Deep-with-Conduit-Knockouts/6150-BLNK

...again no knockouts

what's the quality  like on the garvins. Is it the A380 aluminum and is it the same thickness as the 4Site boxes? Do they powdercoat as well?

Hahha...It's DIY !  These are inexpensive electrical junctions boxes (prob steel) so not specifically made for pedals. They are similar to the Raco boxes, but with no knockouts (the beauty). Surprisingly, they actually have various red boxes, but with knockouts
http://www.garvinindustries.com/search.aspx?SearchText=red%20box

Here's the link to all the no knockout boxes:
http://www.garvinindustries.com/search.aspx?SearchText=blnk

Does 4Site have  6" x 6" and octagon boxes or anything 2 1/8" deep?

If you have any questions about details, you actually get a friendly person (at least I did): 847-455-0188

Hey, they've been around a little longer than all the places we've been buying enclosures:

"A 120-Year-Old, Family-owned manufacturer of UL Listed electrical, low voltage and lighting products.
We ARE the MANUFACTURER, so we have complete control over the design and quality of our products. We stand behind our products and guarantee 100% satisfaction. Our reach is International! We have plants in the United States, China, India and Mexico. We're widely recognized for continually designing innovative, labor-saving products that provide economical solutions to common installation problems and can custom design and manufacture products to your specifications."

[jaysg]

Until now, if you wanted something taller than the BB but same length and width, you could buy the Hammond 1590C or its Sovtek clone. I have long stocked the latter, but it is still fairly pricey because the tooling is not mine. 4Site/Mammoth made a good choice to have their own version done.

I will have around Thanksgiving my first lot of an enclosure that I think of as the "125-BB."  It is the same length and width as the BB but 1.4" tall like the 125-B. A couple of boutiques suggested the idea, and I have run with it because I have the money to invest in a mold.

Steve, anything like a taller 1590B available?  The MXR small box is about 1.25" thick vs. 1 3/16" for the Hammond.  The battery fits better.

[smallbearelec]

Steve, anything like a taller 1590B available?  The MXR small box is about 1.25" thick vs. 1 3/16" for the Hammond.  The battery fits better.

I could get a mold done for this, but it really starts to look like a 125-B...

[Govmnt_Lacky]

The MXR small box is about 1.25" thick vs. 1 3/16" for the Hammond.  The battery fits better.

Im ALL ABOUT finding replicas of the MXR Phase 90/Dist + size boxes! I recently re-used an old Dist + enclosure for an envelope filter and I absolutely love it!

The MXR boxes are taller than a 1590B (better for battery fit) and they seem to be made of a sturdier, heavier aluminum. It took me a while to get it sanded and polished up but it looks great now!

If Steve could get replicas made, I would definitely buy them in mass quantity. They would have to be good replicas though. No cheap aluminum or such.

[John Lyons]

So basically a small difference in size but better quality and most likely twice the price
as a reflection of those changes...not likely. There just isn't enough difference to make
that happen. The price of tooling up a new mold etc etc is far to cost prohibitive.

If you get the right angle (leads are perpendicular to the snap) battery snaps a battery and clip fits fine
in the 1590B, 1290NS, and 4site "B" boxes no problem.

[armstrom]

While we're talking about custom boxes (sorry to hijack, but this seems related) I would LOVE to see a series of hammond-style boxes with integrated PCB mounting bosses. I know people want to be able to cram any old board into an enclosure and lash it down with duct tape or suspend it on a spider web of wiring, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who, like me, would be more than happy to design boards that are capable of mounting to a set of fixed bosses. As long as they are in good locations within the enclosure it should be easy to work around them. If you don't want them, buy the box without them Sadly, to my knowledge, there are no such box designs available that are suitable for stompbox use.

[zombiwoof]

The MXR small box is about 1.25" thick vs. 1 3/16" for the Hammond.  The battery fits better.

Im ALL ABOUT finding replicas of the MXR Phase 90/Dist + size boxes! I recently re-used an old Dist + enclosure for an envelope filter and I absolutely love it!

The MXR boxes are taller than a 1590B (better for battery fit) and they seem to be made of a sturdier, heavier aluminum. It took me a while to get it sanded and polished up but it looks great now!

If Steve could get replicas made, I would definitely buy them in mass quantity. They would have to be good replicas though. No cheap aluminum or such.

I think you can still get the original Bud boxes, aren't they the same as they used to be?.  I've seen them around.  No one ever mentions them here, maybe they are more expensive than Hammond, etc.

Al

[John Lyons]

I think they are something like twice as expensive as hammond.
An the minimums are quite high.

[zombiwoof]

I think they are something like twice as expensive as hammond.
An the minimums are quite high.

Well, he didn't say anything about how much he is willing to pay.  I'm just saying I think they are still available, although I don't know for sure if they are exactly the same as the vintage ones.

Al

[John Lyons]

True. Just thinking that if they are expensive and high minimums
then that is prohibitive to most of us.