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Started by Krallum, October 29, 2010, 01:40:22 PM

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Krallum

I play in a stoner band and I'm looking to build a nice phaser. Something that can phase incredibly slowly with a moderatly strong sweep. Is there something simple I can do on a pcb, I'm trying to avoid something as complicated as those mxr 90/100 kits but ill do that as a last resort

wavley

Search for the Bad Stone thread, some nice boards (that I've been meaning to order  :icon_redface:) but I'm guessing that it's not any less complicated than a 90 or 100, the 45 is easy and I just built one but I don't think that it fits your criteria
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#2
I don't think you are going to find anything simpler than the Phase 45 and like it states above, it would not fit your description. You need to get a 4 stager or above to get anything "deep." You can always try an OTA based circuit like the Ross or the Bad Stone. At least you won't have to match FETs.
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#3
If I've interpreted you correctly, "strong sweep" usually means a strong effect.  With phasers, the more stages, the stronger the effect, so you're pretty much asking for something "complicated"

There ARE simpler phasers, but the thing is that if you want slow, you really need lots of stages to produce a strong effect.

Phasers are not THAT difficult to build.  Alternatively, since they are available everywhere 2nd hand, consider that they are also pretty easy to mod for more intense effects.

Scruffie

Quote from: wavley on October 29, 2010, 01:45:34 PM
Search for the Bad Stone thread, some nice boards (that I've been meaning to order  :icon_redface:) but I'm guessing that it's not any less complicated than a 90 or 100, the 45 is easy and I just built one but I don't think that it fits your criteria
Cheers for the mention  :)

Regards build... in some ways it's simpler as there's none of that pesky FET matching but in build size and complexity, not so much, it is a nice paint by numbers board but that also doesn't mean it's gunna work straight off if you're a begginer or even if your not, tone wise, I'd say it can give a very nice strong slow sweep and can also go into weirder territories.

A Fabbed board will make life easier when it comes to soldering etc. though and the onboard pots means your less likely to make a mistake with wiring probably but you can also get fabbed boards for other Phaser project from Tonepad and a few other places i'm sure, perhaps the Phase Royal Phase 90 from here - http://www.buildyourownclone.com/phaseroyal.html it comes with matched FETs and everything else you need so perhaps it's not a bad choice when it comes down to it.

StephenGiles

What is a stoner band ?
"I want my meat burned, like St Joan. Bring me pickles and vicious mustards to pierce the tongue like Cardigan's Lancers.".

Mark Hammer

Well it's NOT five Taliban guys with a van, a goatskin drum, and a couple of Marshall valvestates.

zombiwoof

Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 29, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
edited....."five Taliban guys with a van, a goatskin drum, and a couple of Marshall valvestates".

That is the exact name of my newest band!.  Hard to get on the tee-shirts, though.

Al

frequencycentral

Phasers? Love em all.... ;D

The P45 will disappoint you. It did me, though some people love them. Far too subtle. I added two more swept stages to mine, so it's close to a script P90. The P90 is fun, got one on the breadboard now. Easy to get longer, slower sweeps by changing the 15uF LFO timing cap for a 47uF, and/or changing the 500k speed pot to a 1M. Replace the 22k (or 24k) regen resistor for a 12k resistor and a 10k pot and it can get slow and swooshy.

Might I suggest you consider my Causality? Not too hard to build and has vast range of sounds. Or you could go completely insane......

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

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the3secondrule

Build the 4ms Phaseur Fleur - i just built one - you can buy kits, just the pcb or a built up pedal.

that sh1t gets real deep, and really nails the slow stoner thing. not a simple build, but not overly complicated either - and no fets to match.

J
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StephenGiles

#10
Quote from: Mark Hammer on October 29, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
Well it's NOT five Taliban guys with a van, a goatskin drum, and a couple of Marshall valvestates.

:icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:

Rockin' Ahmad Wahid Delahang playing the rubab is on the radio this afternoon with some Afghan rock n roll!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vdk8m

Look at this fabulous instrument - imagine the sound through a phaser!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rubab.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbEoibZtjE&feature=related
"I want my meat burned, like St Joan. Bring me pickles and vicious mustards to pierce the tongue like Cardigan's Lancers.".

frequencycentral

^^^

Tracking cookies in those links!  :icon_eek:

And who here knew (correctly) that I play sitar?
http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

Questo è il fiore del partigiano morto per la libertà!

radio

""Tracking cookies in those links! ""

Sorry for that, I used to have webspace for free from my provider,

so I just took the first I googled.

""And who here knew (correctly) that I play sitar?""

Well don't not all phaser-builders play sitar  ;D

Greets Jean-Marie
Keep on soldering!
And don t burn fingers!

radio

Can anybody report my 2 posts to the moderator

(ip.adresse starting with 88. ) I can't do it

"It doesn't make sense  ??? :o ::) " is the error code if I try.
Keep on soldering!
And don t burn fingers!

frequencycentral

I reported you!! I'm the whistle-blower type anyway.  :D
http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

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radio

 ;D Glad you did  :D

Greets JM
Keep on soldering!
And don t burn fingers!

aron

I don't understand the report. What do you want the moderatos to do?

zombiwoof

Quote from: aron on October 30, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
I don't understand the report. What do you want the moderatos to do?

I don't get it either, there are tracking cookies on just about every site on the net.  A good spyware checker or settings in your browser can take care of that.  I think they're having a little private joke.

Al

radio

The two incriminated links are gone , and I started a new thread with

the 2 scans of the New-Dehli phaser on flickr.

So everything is fine now.

Thamks Aaron  :)

Regards JM
Keep on soldering!
And don t burn fingers!

StephenGiles

"I want my meat burned, like St Joan. Bring me pickles and vicious mustards to pierce the tongue like Cardigan's Lancers.".