Tapping power from another unit...hum?

Started by jimosity, February 21, 2011, 08:37:13 PM

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jimosity

I have a pedal that is running on 12vdc and it works just fine, but I need to power another circuit along with it and tap power off of the one that's working fine.   The problem that I'm running into is that there is a hum on the secondary circuit that is power related.
I tried a 78L05 (that's all I had on hand) and the secondary unit powers up and works without hum, but 5 volts isn't enough.
If I get a 78L09 or a LM7809, that tells me that it'll all be good - right?

Is there anything else I can use to reduce the hum aside from a second power supply?
Jim Rodgers
jim@americanhc.com

David

Yup.  Did you hook two big capacitors (like 1000uF) before and after the 7809, following the datasheet?  That's the first thing.  The second thing you can do is put a 100 ohm resistor right after positive voltage enters your secondary unit.  Then, strap the + lead of a big (at least 100 uF) electrolytic capacitor and the other lead to ground.  Connect the + of your secondary effect to this point.  The resistor-capacitor combo is a filter for 60Hz hum and other crap.  I can tell you from personal experience that it works.

jimosity

I haven't gotten the LM7809 or 78L09 yet to test it out, but I did have a 78L05 and that eliminated the hum, but didn't provide enough voltage.
I was trying to see if there were another way around it besides the 7809 since I didn't have those in stock, but it looks like I found some locally, so I'll test it out tonight.
Jim Rodgers
jim@americanhc.com

merlinb

The standard alternative is a zener-follower stabilizer, which requires only a resistor, zener and transistor. (Maybe a couple of caps too).
e.g.:

Don't add large capacitors after a 78xx regulator IC; they are not necessary, and only retard transient regulation. 10uF after the regulator IC is fine.