someone upped this on "another" forum...worth a look!!!!!

[gmoon]

I've been enjoying this whole thread for some time--great stuff guys! Long live kludgy retro F/X!

RE: Those funky switches-- a very common types in old tube-era organs, and although I've disassembled a few (for the transformers, mostly), it's less than ten. I've thrown away dozens (or hundreds) of those.

So if you need replacements, they may be as close as Craigslist... One organ could supply enough for all the Ludwig Phase II's that still exist. 

Here's a few on one board I didn't throw away. They don't look as robust as yours, but I've seen others as well:

[pinkjimiphoton]

used this thing live yesterday for the first time...omg, this thing is in-sane!!!!

[Keppy]

^ Nice!

I'm making progress, but nothing to report yet. Stay tuned...

[pinkjimiphoton]

as soon as i kicked it on when i was setting up, the band was like...how the f**k are you doing the talkbox without your mic hooked up yet?



i used it on something...i forget what...but suddenly i remembered what it was like to have acid flowing between my chromosomes..it really sounded like an analog synth with the filters being swept...i didn't have the formant filter intensity cranked, so i was going in and out of phase with my foot...it was insane...sometimes it seemed like it was behind me, sometimes in front, and sometimes INSIDE me.

i had to fight the modulation to keep it in the sweet spot, which was a blast...even the folks in the audience were freaking out, looking around them...lol. dude, it is SICK!!!

if ya dial in the trimmers right, you can get most of the vowels with the sweep of the wah pedal...from yoy to yay to woo to wah...i can't wait til ya get this thing built so you can ...ummm... EXPERIENCE it... i think i've played most of the pedals out there by this point, and there's nothing like it...so organic...so psychedelic..

but one thing ya wanna watch is what's before it in the chain...i found i could overload it really easy and get some horrible crackly distortion noise. so i'm gonna move it in my pedal chain after the fuzz/od/distortion, but before the boost/modulations/delay. that should do the trick.

it didn't like the super hard on clone i use for solo boosts at all...but it LOVES the fuzz face...can't wait to try it with the ugly face in front of it!!



i don't think i've been this excited since my first...well...use your imagination for "organic" experiences...lol

:thu:   

[artifus]

 

[digi2t]

Hey jimi,

but one thing ya wanna watch is what's before it in the chain...i found i could overload it really easy and get some horrible crackly distortion noise. so i'm gonna move it in my pedal chain after the fuzz/od/distortion, but before the boost/modulations/delay. that should do the trick.

Maybe an input volume pot, directly after the hot input when you come out of bypass? That way you can tame the input signal when you kick it on. I know you have the input balance to play with, but at that point, you're already running through the effect, so for a hot signal I suppose it becomes a moot point. A primary input volume should (maybe) allow you to put it anywhere in the signal chain, but you'll still have to judge what is running at what volume when you bypass. A bit of a balancing act, but then you can experiment with feeding it fuzz/od/etc. signals, without overloading it.

If you have time, could you take the resistance readings off your trimmer? I'd like to compare them to mine, and see what my puppy will do.

Cheers bro,
Dino

[pinkjimiphoton]

i can do that a little later on bro, i have to pick my kid up around 1 then go grocery shopping (oh, joy)...and am in the middle of the first set of sanding after the first layer of tung oil on the doubleneck i'm building.

but later on i'll pop her open and read the resistances i have set on the trimmers. i just set them by ear. tried using the ones you'd posted earlier, but on mine it wasn't quite right probably because of parts drifting.

so please bear with me!

thanks for the call yesterday, was great hangin' out with ya yesterday, and i hope we can get together soon with ludvig von und too!!

listened to your music yesterday, spammed it on facebook....asian icemen rule!

peace!
jimi

[pinkjimiphoton]

hi guys,
dino asked me to take resistance readings off the trim pots and wah pot in my phase II...they may or may not be useful, but hey, in for a dollar, in for a dime.

all readings taken from the back side of the pot (not the thumbwheel side), 3-2-1, left to right.

all readings from the BACK (non

thumbwheel) side of the pot, 3, 2

(wiper), 1, left to right

r31 (25k)

3-2 = 4.7k
2-1 = no reading

r77 = 30k

3-2 = 13.8k
2-1 = 19.9k

r41 = 500r

3-2 = 420r
2-1 = no reading

r62 = 500r

3-2 = 175.9r
2-1 = no reading

r55 = 50k
3-2 = 15.9k
2-1 = 32.6k

r29 = 150r

3-2 = 106r
2-1 = no reading

r65 = 25k

set to 24.3k

treadle pot = 5k

toe down

3-2 = 4.1k
2-1 = 4.3k

heel down

3-2 = 4.5
2-1 = no reading

hey keppy....any luck yet? have ya had a chance to start?

r.g......how's your project coming...any news on the updating front?

happy 4th to all my american compatriots!

peace
jimi

[Keppy]

The board's populated, and I'm working on the enclosure. There are so many switches, knobs & jacks that putting it together outside the box seems like a wiring nightmare, so I'm afraid I have to do the exterior stuff in order to progress. I'm working on it though! No, really I am! Look:



I'll let you guys know when it's working/stuck/doomed to failure.

[R.G.]

Thanks for posting the readings. Good fodder for the first prototype. Keppy did a good job on the board. He's right about the wiring - it's really, really involved for this one. The over-fifty-wires thing was one of the issues that stopped me the first time I plunged into this.

The updated version does make vowels. I'm still tinkering with the "path" of the filters to get the best selection of vowels with the rocker. Also making it revert to a single wah when a switch is flipped.

[pinkjimiphoton]

awesome job, keppy!!

listen....do ya hear it? i can already!!

yah, the 50 wires thing has me pretty scared, too... 

rg, it's gonna have a normal wah, too? why not just stick with the formants, and use a crybaby or whatever for the wah outboard? or is it such a simple mod it's NOT worth not doing?

i can't wait to build one of these puppys...i've been taking the phase II out to gigs/rehearsals, but i'd rather pack a clone...like a weekend ago, when it suddenly started raining.

everything got wet but my ludwig!!

[R.G.]

rg, it's gonna have a normal wah, too? why not just stick with the formants, and use a crybaby or whatever for the wah outboard? or is it such a simple mod it's NOT worth not doing?

It's more like with all the hardware already there, it would be embarrassing to me to not do it. There may be reasons to leave it out of the end result, but that should be the result of thought and decision, not because I couldn't figure out how or was in too big a hurry to do it.

I should mention that this is not something to wait for. It may take a long time to get to a complete result, if ever. My day job has some things that are going to keep me busy in the next little bit. I do this stuff for fun when the work day is over.

[pinkjimiphoton]

gotcha , r.g.

no rush, no worries sir!!

just eager to see it live again. tcob first, always!

hope ya'll have a great 4th, bro, rock on!!

[digi2t]

Keppy.... OMFG!!..... it's absolutely beautiful. Hold on, I've got to wipe the tears from my eyes 

R.G., that would be sooo righteous to have it switch between wah or vowels. I mean, really kill two birds with one stone. That idea never crossed my mind.

BUT.... if this works out, and Colorsound Vocalizer works out as well, then I might combine the two into one enclosure, with a switch to flip between them. Since I already have 3 dedicated wah's, I'll just amalgamate these two into a sort of "vowel-erizer".

2 pots for the Vocalizer, and one for the Phase II =


Yes... I am a twisted shit 


Happy (late) Canada day to all the Canucks, and a Happy 4th of July to all our American cousins. Hand us another beer, will ya?

[pinkjimiphoton]

dude...DUDE!! 

i like the way your mind works!! 

[digi2t]

WOW, market must be picking up.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/FUZZ-Ludwig-Phase-II-Synthesizer-Vintage-/260814814755?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cb9c63e23

Wonder how high this puppy will go?

[pinkjimiphoton]

330 for shipping? lol...let's see...the counter switch light doesn't work, the stereo footswitch indicator doesn't work, it's missing the three knobs and the handle, but looks clean.

i bet he gets about 2 grande for it!!!

i'm adding it to my watch list just for sheetz and giggles!!


weird...added it to my watch list, shipping dropped to 70 bucks!

depending on how high it gets, i may try and snipe it in the last few seconds..i got plastic, and ain't afraid to lose it!! 

[pinkjimiphoton]

dudes, check this out...

sorry to hijack the thread, but...this sounds really close to the yoyoy of the ludwig!

here's the schem...

http://tinydazzler.blogspot.com/2010/09/pedal-power.html

didn't know if you'd seen this yet, but i think i'm gonna try one..

[digi2t]

Neat! Simple too. Love the BBQ rotisseire motor box use;



Lowes.... here I come!

[theundeadelvis]

I've seen some of build s before. It's all pretty cool stuff, but I'm most impressed with his socks!