Hello! And I've got a question for ya...

Started by Koby, June 13, 2011, 12:58:50 PM

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Koby

Hey everyone.  Very cool to be here.  Hope to get you know you all soon. 

My question is this:
I have a small pedal board.  The last thing in the chain is a Digitech Digidelay.  It works and sounds fine for what I use it for, but whenever I have my overdrive or compressor on there is a steady beeping sound that comes through to my amplifier.  I assume that it's the delay, because it's the only thing between the two signal boosting pedals and the amp.  And I've tried it with multiple amps and the same thing happens.  Can anyone explain this to me?  I'm new to the pedal modding/building/repair world so thanks in advance for the help.  Here's my signal path.

Brace Audio Wireless
Home made A/B box
Morpheus Droptune
Boss TU2
Compressor
Crybaby (standard)
Overdrive
Digitech Digidelay


boogietone

If you remove everything else from the signal path is it still there? Is it in time with the delay? Does it change volume with any changes in settings?
An oxymoron - clean transistor boost.

Koby

It's only there when another pedal is boosting the signal into the delay, and it's whether the delay pedal is on or off.  And no, it's not in time with the delay.  The delay settings have no effect on it.

vendettav

what if yo take out the delay pedal??

also what kind of beeping isit? like electronic? (synthy??)
check my music HERE

Shredtastic psycho metal!

Koby

No, It's not there when the delay pedal is removed.  I don't know that I would call the sound synthy, but it's definitely a digital sounding beep. 

slacker

How much are you boosting the signal by, you might just be overloading the pedal. If the problem goes away when you turn down the overdrive or compressor that's probably what it is, in which case there's not a lot you can do about it.

Koby

Really not much.  It does quiet down a bit when I lower the output of the overdrive and compressor, but it's audible when set at just about unity also.  Is it a problem with the particular delay, or do all digital delays do this?

vendettav

Ive never came across a unit that did that... hmm may be put the overdrive before the crybaby? see if there's some impedance shit going on or something
check my music HERE

Shredtastic psycho metal!

boogietone

Is the noise constant and/or oscillatory or does it come and go with your playing? If you play softer does it go away or become softer?
An oxymoron - clean transistor boost.

Koby

It's less audible when I'm playing, but that's just because the guitar covers it up.  It doesn't actually get any quieter.  And the sound doesn't occilate.  It's just a constant: Beep beep beep beep...etc.  Each a little under a second apart.

boogietone

What happens if you run each box from an independent power supply or battery?
An oxymoron - clean transistor boost.

Koby


tiges_ tendres

My Suggestions:

Drop the wireless, see if that makes a difference

Use separate power supplies.  Any of my Line 6 Tone Core pedals do not play nicely when I run them on the same power supply as any other pedal.  You seem to be running at least two digital pedals: The Delay and the Morpheus.

Ground Loops.  You mentioned you built an A/B pedal.  Is this active or passive?
Try a little tenderness.

Koby

The AB box is passive.  And unfortunately the problem doesn't change if I'm wired or wireless.  But I think you're on to something with the seperate power supplies and two digital boxes.  I'll check it all out tonight and let you know how I fare.  Thanks!

DonB

I have the same pedal. Also have the tonedriver. When the batteries start to go flat my TD has a constant beeping kind of thing going on. Its real annoying. So is you pedal on dc or batts?
It might be the same thing. Also my digi delay is a piece of shit. Has shit itself after only 14 months of very mild use.

Koby

I figured the beeping out.  My MXR dynacomp is picking up the beep from my wireless receiver.  It is a brace audio DWG-1000.  When I move the receiver away from the compressor is goes away, so the beep is not going through the line.  Since my pedal board isn't large enough to get the receiver far enough away from the pedal, is there a way to shield the compressor to stop picking up the sound?  Thanks.

artifus

patient: doctor, doctor - it hurts every time i punch myself in the face.

doctor: stop punching yourself in the face.

Koby

Oh but how I love to punch myself in the face!


artifus

well, then, i'm not sure the doctor can help you. good luck battling the laws of physics. let us know how you get on.

Koby

Thanks.  I'll keep up the battle.  While I do, does anyone have any constructive help for me?  Or as artifus is seeming to try to tell me, is this just what happens and there isn't anything I can do but move the receiver?  Thanks.