Anyone know of a pedal that'll sustain notes for a verrrry long time?

Started by iandy4, July 23, 2011, 04:25:22 AM

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iandy4

I think it would be really cool to be able to basically mimic an e-bow or any product that sustains a note or chord for a long time.  Anyone know of anything or just of a circuit to look at to get ideas from?  Thanks in advance!
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Processaurus

The freeze is the slick, granular synthesis way to do it,  the only other one I can think of is the boss DF-2  Distortion Feedbacker, which synthesized a feedback note from a phase locked loop IC when you hold the pedal down.  Haven't seen anyone make a modded out version of that circuit, but there are a lot of interesting noise possibilities there.

I've wondered what it would sound like recording guitar that's feeding back in front of an amp, but splitting the dry off before the amp, so it is clean, but strangely sustained.

artifus

Quote from: Processaurus on July 23, 2011, 06:32:35 AMI've wondered what it would sound like recording guitar that's feeding back in front of an amp, but splitting the dry off before the amp, so it is clean, but strangely sustained.

sounds cool - split signal, one to small practice amp at high gain close to pick ups and the other to a clean amp mic'ed up in another room. have split signal with a piezo transducer clipped to the head stock with hit and miss sustainiac like results.

could a simple PT2399/delay circuit be modded with a hold function to infinitely repeat the last recorded pass?


CynicalMan

How about a reverb set for wet signal only, with a feedback loop controlled by a momentary switch?

ashcat_lt

Quote from: Processaurus on July 23, 2011, 06:32:35 AMI've wondered what it would sound like recording guitar that's feeding back in front of an amp, but splitting the dry off before the amp, so it is clean, but strangely sustained.
This I've done.  It's pretty cool, but maybe not exactly what you're thinking you'll get.  Sounds pretty much like playing through a loud, clean amp.  It seems like the vibration of a feeding back string isn't often actually that strong.  It sounds as loud as notes you'd play simply because of the compression action from all the distortion.

Scruffie

EHX Attack Decay isn't bad... not endless though.

Oh and I seem to remember the Pigtronix Compressor isn't bad at sustaining too.

EATyourGuitar

there are some oscillating fuzz pedals that will have infinite sustain.
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slacker

Quote from: CynicalMan on July 23, 2011, 09:17:38 AM
How about a reverb set for wet signal only, with a feedback loop controlled by a momentary switch?

That works in the digital world, you can make a reasonable Freeze effect using it. I guess an analogue version would work if you got the feedback just right.

iandy4

Thanks guys!

I can't believe I never came across the EHX freeze! It's so cool! That's exactly what I was looking for.
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iandy4

Quote from: Processaurus on July 23, 2011, 06:32:35 AM
The freeze is the slick, granular synthesis way to do it,  the only other one I can think of is the boss DF-2  Distortion Feedbacker, which synthesized a feedback note from a phase locked loop IC when you hold the pedal down.  Haven't seen anyone make a modded out version of that circuit, but there are a lot of interesting noise possibilities there.

I've wondered what it would sound like recording guitar that's feeding back in front of an amp, but splitting the dry off before the amp, so it is clean, but strangely sustained.

Thanks for the tip!
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toneman

Have U heard of the PAiA Infinity Plus??    ;)

A incandesent bulb compressor that sustains cleanly and for days   :icon_eek:......
I had one many many many yrs ago.....don't know what happened to it   :-X

Can't find the original PAia manual on the web, but here's some mods with a partial schematic.

http://www.lynx.bc.ca/~jc/pedalsInfinity.html


This page talks about the Infinity Plus and the history of PAiA.

http://sonic.net/mjones/paia/paia.html


IIRC, the complete manual in PDF is over at the Paia-YahooGroups site in the "files" section.
You'll have to join the Group to view the manual.

afn
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EDITED: found it!! It's actually in the documents section @ www.PAiA's.com.
    http://www.paia.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=203

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Quackzed

fwiw the tonebender was designed to make the guitar extra sustany
also compressors like the dyna comp will definately add alot of sustain, with both a high gain fuzz or distortion and a compressor you should have no problem (other than noise and feedback)...
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ashcat_lt

Quote from: vendettav on July 23, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
there's the behringer pedal that does it for cheap
Is that their clone of the Boss Feedbacker?

Then there's this thing.

boogietone

That would be the "Tufnel Silent Trilith Stain-O-Matic" Rev. 10 11.
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oldschoolanalog

Quote from: vendettav on July 23, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
there's the behringer pedal that does it for cheap
The GR55 will sustain forever for very expensive.  :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
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iandy4

Quote from: toneman on July 23, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Have U heard of the PAiA Infinity Plus??    ;)

A incandesent bulb compressor that sustains cleanly and for days   :icon_eek:......
I had one many many many yrs ago.....don't know what happened to it   :-X

Can't find the original PAia manual on the web, but here's some mods with a partial schematic.

http://www.lynx.bc.ca/~jc/pedalsInfinity.html


This page talks about the Infinity Plus and the history of PAiA.

http://sonic.net/mjones/paia/paia.html


IIRC, the complete manual in PDF is over at the Paia-YahooGroups site in the "files" section.
You'll have to join the Group to view the manual.

afn
:icon_cool:


EDITED: found it!! It's actually in the documents section @ www.PAiA's.com.
   http://www.paia.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=203

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Thanks!! I'm definitely building that!
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iandy4

haha I saw some Freeze tutorials and instantly ran out and bought it.  It is so f*&king cool!
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