How to add a mids knob to a baxendall 2 knob tonestack?

Started by frequencycentral, August 04, 2011, 11:47:32 AM

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Ok I found this:

Quote from: waltk on September 21, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
About the Baxandall - if you increase C3 (from Duncan's Tone Stack calculator), you can get a huge mid-range boost (that extends down to enhance low-range frequencies) .  I always add a cap in parallel with C3, and put it on a switch.

Thanks Walt! Looks like 2nF (though Walt suggests 890pF) might be a good choice. Maybe a mix pot would work between the 330pF and a 2nF to have variable mid boost?
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karter2000

Quote from: frequencycentral on August 04, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Ok I found this:

Quote from: waltk on September 21, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
About the Baxandall - if you increase C3 (from Duncan's Tone Stack calculator), you can get a huge mid-range boost (that extends down to enhance low-range frequencies) .  I always add a cap in parallel with C3, and put it on a switch.

Thanks Walt! Looks like 2nF (though Walt suggests 890pF) might be a good choice. Maybe a mix pot would work between the 330pF and a 2nF to have variable mid boost?

Cool, I'll have to try that.

Is it possible to mimic the inductor-driven midrange control like the SVT?  Would that work in the average stompbox circuit?

frequencycentral

Quote from: frequencycentral on August 04, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Maybe a mix pot would work between the 330pF and a 2nF to have variable mid boost?

Kinda like this?

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

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Derringer

Quote from: karter2000 on August 04, 2011, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: frequencycentral on August 04, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Ok I found this:

Quote from: waltk on September 21, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
About the Baxandall - if you increase C3 (from Duncan's Tone Stack calculator), you can get a huge mid-range boost (that extends down to enhance low-range frequencies) .  I always add a cap in parallel with C3, and put it on a switch.

Thanks Walt! Looks like 2nF (though Walt suggests 890pF) might be a good choice. Maybe a mix pot would work between the 330pF and a 2nF to have variable mid boost?

Cool, I'll have to try that.

Is it possible to mimic the inductor-driven midrange control like the SVT?  Would that work in the average stompbox circuit?

I think you'd have to build a gyrator/parametric-EQ with an opamp to simulate what's going on in the SVT design ... unless you could find the right inductors

AdamM

there used to be a nat semi opamp application note which included a three band bax tone control. might be worth a search on www.national.com

or try googling "3 band baxandall schematic"

merlinb

If you vary the 180k 'pot separation resistor' you get a shift control that moves the whole response up or down. Not exactly what you want, but useful nonetheless.

CynicalMan

Can't vouch for it personally, but you could try this:

askwho69

how about the active one? which component to increase to add mids ? :icon_question:
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CynicalMan

Quote from: caspercody on August 04, 2011, 10:00:47 PM
Here is one from a Carvin amp.



Right-click and press Copy Image Location. Use that as the image link.

aziltz

Quote from: frequencycentral on August 04, 2011, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: frequencycentral on August 04, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Maybe a mix pot would work between the 330pF and a 2nF to have variable mid boost?

Kinda like this?



I would suggest shorting the middle lug to the upper lug on the Mid Pot, otherwise you might get Mids on both ends and not much in the middle.