MN3005 TZF Electric Mistress?

Started by asatbluesboy, August 24, 2011, 10:29:14 AM

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asatbluesboy

I've been following the Electric Mistress threads and felt like needing one. The only spare BBD chip I've got is an MN3005 (the real deal--bought back in '08), that I've never really used because I ended up getting a BBE Two-Timer and swapping the CoolAudio chip for a Panasonic 3205. The SAD1024 is a dual 512-stage BBD, so I came to the brilliant conclusion I could actually have TWO Electric Mistresses (with their respective TZF boards) out of ONE MN3005! Ain't I a genius?  ;D

Now, seriously, I'm new to a lot of things and this question looks stupid even to me, but it doesn't hurt to ask: is there a way I can "split" each 2048 stage to have it suit a flanger or I'm better off finding someone who is willing to trade their SAD1024 for my MN3005?
...collectors together and emitter to base? You're such a darling...

ton.

Scruffie

I'm afraid you can't split it up like that.

To be honest you're probably best off not even trading for SAD1024, having both BBDs on the same chip could get messy with heterodyning, i'm sure it's possible but...

Sell the MN3005 to someone who needs it for a repair and then buy yourself 4 x V3207s from Smallbear and pocket the extra cash.

There's no reason to use even MN3007s because it's a 9V electric mistress, the only reason 300X series have anything over the 320X series is they run at a higher voltage for cleaner headroom, but you're not running it at 15V.

asatbluesboy

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Quote from: Scruffie on August 24, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
I'm afraid you can't split it up like that.

To be honest you're probably best off not even trading for SAD1024, having both BBDs on the same chip could get messy with heterodyning, i'm sure it's possible but...

Sell the MN3005 to someone who needs it for a repair and then buy yourself 4 x V3207s from Smallbear and pocket the extra cash.

There's no reason to use even MN3007s because it's a 9V electric mistress, the only reason 300X series have anything over the 320X series is they run at a higher voltage for cleaner headroom, but you're not running it at 15V.
The reason I want an SAD1024 is the clips someone (Thomeeque, I believe) posted of the EHX version (with the SAD1024) versus the 3207 version. The EHX sounded deeper and overall "lusher".

But thanks a lot, man. I'll keep your advice in mind. 4 × 3207 + extra cash sounds like fun.
...collectors together and emitter to base? You're such a darling...

ton.

Mark Hammer

In theory, using a 4096-stage chip like an MN3005 seems like it ought to deliver superior performance.  Higher sampling rate, less need for noise reduction, etc.  In actuality, forcing such a chip to clock fast enough to produce delay times in the range of flanging would exceed what the chip is capable of.  Maybe you could push a 2048-stage chip that fast...maybe....but a 4096-stage chip isn't likely up to it, even with a buffered clock.

Scruffie

Quote from: Mark Hammer on August 24, 2011, 12:21:54 PM
In theory, using a 4096-stage chip like an MN3005 seems like it ought to deliver superior performance.  Higher sampling rate, less need for noise reduction, etc.  In actuality, forcing such a chip to clock fast enough to produce delay times in the range of flanging would exceed what the chip is capable of.  Maybe you could push a 2048-stage chip that fast...maybe....but a 4096-stage chip isn't likely up to it, even with a buffered clock.
I think he was talking about splitting it up in to seperate 1024 stage devices unless I misunderstood.

Mark Hammer

Well, if he can successfuly get the epoxy off and cut/solder some of those teeny-tiny leads that only little Indonesian ladies with microscopes can see and work with, more power to him.

asatbluesboy

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Quote from: Scruffie on August 24, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on August 24, 2011, 12:21:54 PM
In theory, using a 4096-stage chip like an MN3005 seems like it ought to deliver superior performance.  Higher sampling rate, less need for noise reduction, etc.  In actuality, forcing such a chip to clock fast enough to produce delay times in the range of flanging would exceed what the chip is capable of.  Maybe you could push a 2048-stage chip that fast...maybe....but a 4096-stage chip isn't likely up to it, even with a buffered clock.
I think he was talking about splitting it up in to seperate 1024 stage devices unless I misunderstood.
That's precisely what I meant.
Quote from: Mark Hammer on August 24, 2011, 01:50:08 PM
Well, if he can successfuly get the epoxy off and cut/solder some of those teeny-tiny leads that only little Indonesian ladies with microscopes can see and work with, more power to him.
Do they have to be Indonesian? I live in a port city, and we do have quite the assortment (though mostly men, not women). Can they be Filipino or Indian?
...collectors together and emitter to base? You're such a darling...

ton.