TREBLE

[Quackzed]

couldnt hear 14k and up, ive got some tinitus as well...

[nick d]

                  Just after the "hearing test " I played a little guitar - had to turn the " Tone " down - too much treble .
                   Now then - if the frequencies that I can barely hear annoy me , should I actually worry about my ears
                   being Sh**ed - ?
                   
                   Anyway , just been listening to some old Hawkwind stuff - Lemmy's bass sound great !!

                   Play loud , rock hard , have fun !
                   
                   Peace .   

[pinkjimiphoton]

i have meniere's disease, so for me, not hearing the tinitis most of the time is a blessing...but i have major hearing loss...last time it was checked, 60% loss right, 40% left.

so i can't actually mix music anymore, and forget wearing earplugs. it's crazy.

i just turned 49 the end of june.

i can JUST barely hear 14k...can tell the 15 is there, but can't really hear it.

[PRR]

Don't be too concerned about drop-offs above 10KHz unless you own a CALIBRATED speaker. Most PC speakers get all ratty above 7KHz, some peaks and major dips. Many earphones also can't be trusted.

I've lost nearly everything above 1.5KHz. I can hear to 3-4KHz but it has to be boosted unreasonably. This type loss is typical for older males, but the steepness of the drop (and my general avoidance of loud noises; I wear muffs to mow the lawn) makes this quite atypical. So much that the doc scanned my head for odd growths.

Protect your hearing!! It does NOT grow back. The booster-hairs are an incredibly tricky thing, and will not be cured by stem-cell or other magic-medicine in our lifetimes. (These booster-hairs were not even discovered until the 1970s... they were not in the books I learned my audiology from.)

[Nasse]

some Spotnicks recordings have good treble tone on lead gtr

[DDD]

Well, I can hardly hear 12 kHz, and absolutely cannot hear 12.5-13-14-15 kHz etc.
At the same time playing with multi-band EQ while listening guitar samples, I feel noticeable sound difference with different positions of the 12.5 kHz knob ().
I do know that guitar speaker cannot reproduce frequencies beyond 6-8 kHz at all, and I can't hear more than 12 kHz, but ... it's a mystery.

[nexekho]

See, my theory is that not just that the ear itself degrades - to actually detect a frequency that high you'd need some seriously high frequency sampling on the brain side and I have to wonder how much of it is the ear and how much is young brains being clocked higher :p

Through some decent headphones jacked straight into the line out I can go a few steps higher, with the upper ones becoming white noise like.

[DavenPaget]

i'm 17 , and can't hear above 16k O_O
( wait , the max freq of my satelites are 160-16k , so yeah , no doubt , it's the rolloff of that darn thing . )

Still rocking out to metallica and avenged sevenfold though !

[DavenPaget]

See, my theory is that not just that the ear itself degrades - to actually detect a frequency that high you'd need some seriously high frequency sampling on the brain side and I have to wonder how much of it is the ear and how much is young brains being clocked higher :p

Through some decent headphones jacked straight into the line out I can go a few steps higher, with the upper ones becoming white noise like.

That would mean i have less then 34kHZ but 128bit DAC clock in me 

[PRR]

> how much is young brains being clocked higher

An interesting theory.

> to actually detect a frequency that high you'd need some seriously high frequency sampling on the brain side and I have to wonder how much of it is the ear and how much...

Your brain does not get 20KHz. (Maybe 200Hz and down, because we can resolve relative-phase across the head, but even this action is unclear.)

There is (was) a nerve in your ear which "lights up" best for 20KHz tones and sends several pulses per second down a nerve which might be labeled "20KHZ".

Have you watched a Spectrum Analyzer? The ear is a lot like that except a thousand bands. The ear-brain connection is only a few thousand nerve-links.

When that "20KHz nerve" is dead, 20KHz is gone forever.

I've lost most of the swath from 20KHz down to 2KHz. It really is like someone put duct-tape over half of the Spectrum Analyzer, and the more interesting half.

There's actually two nerve-hairs per frequency band, set right side by side. One goes to the brain. But this, even with all the funnel leverage from outside sounds, would not be able to detect very faint sounds. Nerves are not that good. So Nature has given us (most mammals) a second hair-cell linked to the first in a positive feedback connection. Faint sounds start faint twitches which feed-back and boost the vibration of the sensing cell. We electrical engineers know how tricky PFB is, so it is little surprise how easily it can go bad.

[petemoore]

  Every blue moon or so my ears pop open the block. This is often when I'm hitting a loud high note, singing, and is a super-shock..on a stage filled with loud noises, the 'volume' opens up from 40% to 90% all of a sudden I can hear everything above bass guitar range 3 times as loud.
   Bummer is it closes off again 'pretty soon', I heard really great one night after a high note, other times the loudness pops on and off, or just stays 'loud' for 2 minutes or just the short period of time while the internal pressures related to the high note are 'on' the ear.

[amptramp]

The benefits of a quiet life!

Back in university in 1970, I was the subject of an audio test in our acoustics class and my hearing was flat to 17 KHz but only down 6 db at 23 KHz.  I can hear the 15,734 Hz sweep of my (CRT) television.  And I can tell that it's not a sine wave!  So I must be able to hear something at 31,468 Hz.

I have actually been to more rock concerts in the last five years than in the rest of my life, so maybe my hearing will finally start to deteriorate.  Maybe this is why pedals like the Brian May Treble Boost are popular with musicians - they aren't trying to boost treble, they're trying to hear it.

[artifus]

Maybe this is why pedals like the Brian May Treble Boost are popular with musicians - they aren't trying to boost treble, they're trying to hear it.

!

on the subject of hearing/frequencies stumbled upon this recently: http://www.v-plugs.com/mr_soundman

[nexekho]

The benefits of a quiet life!

Back in university in 1970, I was the subject of an audio test in our acoustics class and my hearing was flat to 17 KHz but only down 6 db at 23 KHz.  I can hear the 15,734 Hz sweep of my (CRT) television.  And I can tell that it's not a sine wave!  So I must be able to hear something at 31,468 Hz.

I have actually been to more rock concerts in the last five years than in the rest of my life, so maybe my hearing will finally start to deteriorate.  Maybe this is why pedals like the Brian May Treble Boost are popular with musicians - they aren't trying to boost treble, they're trying to hear it.

At my university, they have a bad batch of computers with poor capacitors.  I can hear them.  About one fails every week.  It's blisteringly high pitched to the point at which I can't make out a wave, just a hiss, but I can tell you which ones are going to fail within a couple of weeks.  A couple of other people can hear it but very few.

[rockhorst]

Don't remember where, but I once read that the little hairs in your ear DO regrow, just terribly slow (think decades). Significant improvement in growth speed was noted if they stuck the test subject in a very quiet environment for a prolonged period (think months).

[Skruffyhound]

I'm 44, I can hear 18-19k, reckon I could hear higher if I got my ears syringed, I can hear like a bat afterwards. In fact that wax may be what is saving my hearing. I had a definite drop around 12k though.

[Skruffyhound]

Every blue moon or so my ears pop open the block

Get your ears cleaned mate or do it yourself. One of our friends was very miserable thinking she was deaf until one visit to the doc later she could hear just fine.

Does it happen when you yawn sometimes? There's a mechanism to balance pressure between the outer and inner ear, some tubes called Eustachian tubules (IIRC) which are connected with this phenomenon, it happens to me once in a while. It can happen to everyone when flying for example, but some people are blocked most of the time.

[buildafriend]

i couldn't hear 14000hz onwards...i am 45 

What were you listening on? If they were shitty speakers who knows if they even can reproduce some of those frequencies.

[deadastronaut]

i couldn't hear 14000hz onwards...i am 45 

What were you listening on? If they were sh*tty speakers who knows if they even can reproduce some of those frequencies.

JBL control monitors...not too shitty..

[DavenPaget]

The youtube video encoder doesn't have a good KHz , try SoundARB , my sats and ears were flat to 19.5 before it rapidly fell off , god knows what happened .
My sats do 16k max O_o