Help debugging a super-low output Thor.

Started by StereoKills, October 22, 2011, 10:17:48 AM

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StereoKills

This one's been sitting on the shelf for months waiting for me to debug. I figure today is the day.

Project: http://www.runoffgroove.com/thor.html
I etched my own pcb using the supplied layout by Pablo.
I don't think I made any substitutions.

Works great in bypass mode :), but when turned on, the output is really really low. If I crank the Thor's volume all the way up, I can start to hear some nice distortion.

Voltages using a One-Spot power supply. Measurements taken with gain set to 50% and both bright and bottom switches on.

V+: 9.16

Q1 (2N5457)
D: 6.39
S: 0.43
G: 0.01

Q2 (J201)
D: 4.71 (Instructions say to bias this to 4.5, but adjusting the 20k trim seems to have no effect?)
S: 0.22
G: 0.00

Q3 (2N5457)
D: 9.16
S: 5.10
G: 4.15

Q4 (2N5457)
D: 4.65
S: 0.45
G: 0.00

U1 (TL071)
1: 0.74
2: 8.52
3: 4.28
4: 0.00
5: 0.73
6: 8.52
7: 9.16
8: 0.00

The very quiet distortion I can hear has me super pumped to get this working! I know this is going to scream when it's done!
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"

slacker

Something's wrong round U1, pins 2 and 6 should be about 4.5 volts. I'd check all the connections and components round there, maybe pin 6 has partial short to pin 7?

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D: 4.71 (Instructions say to bias this to 4.5, but adjusting the 20k trim seems to have no effect?)

If it does nothing then the wiper probably isn't connected.

StereoKills

Quote from: slacker on October 22, 2011, 10:27:03 AM
Something's wrong round U1, pins 2 and 6 should be about 4.5 volts. I'd check all the connections and components round there, maybe pin 6 has partial short to pin 7?
I'm not seeing any possible shorts. Maybe the IC is bad? I ran out of sockets just before this project so it's soldered in (grrr).

Quote from: slacker on October 22, 2011, 10:27:03 AM
If it does nothing then the wiper probably isn't connected.
That was my thought too, but I figured it was probably close enough at 4.7 to not bother with it?
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"

StereoKills

Turned out to be a bad TL071. Got a new one in there and I'm basking in Marshall heaven.

Thanks Slacker!
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"

B Tremblay

B Tremblay
runoffgroove.com

StereoKills

I've gotten it to work and it sounds great.
A bit of a curiosity though... When I use my bridge pickup, I can adjust my guitar's tone knob and the gain of the Thor to 'tune in' a high frequency/feedback tone. Shows up when the gain is between 50-90% and is loudest at 70%. Turning my guitar's tone knob up increases the volume of the frequency. Doesn't show up when I use both of the humbuckers, just the bridge one.
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"

StereoKills

Apparently it's only an issue when it's the only pedal in the chain. In between my wah and delay's buffers, it's not there.
"Sometimes it takes a thousand notes to make one sound"