MPF-102 Transistor Bias

Started by soupbone, November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM

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soupbone

I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

smallbearelec

Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

There should be a trimpot in the drain circuit of the transistor. With your meter connected from drain to ground, tweak that pot till you see 4.5 Volts.

soupbone

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Quote from: smallbearelec on November 12, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

There should be a trimpot in the drain circuit of the transistor. With your meter connected from drain to ground, tweak that pot till you see 4.5 Volts.
Cool!This layout doesn't use a trimpot.Should i adjust the resistor,If need be that is connected to the drain of the transistor?

frank_p

Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: smallbearelec on November 12, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

There should be a trimpot in the drain circuit of the transistor. With your meter connected from drain to ground, tweak that pot till you see 4.5 Volts.
Cool!This layout doesn't use a trimpot.Should i adjust the resistor,If need be that is connected to the drain of the transistor?




Choose trimpot to higher value than the drain resistor on your shem.

Replace the resistor with trimpot like this:


adjust to 4.5v

Than if you have it, replace with close value resistor or leave trimpot.

Measure, try to play.

http://www.runoffgroove.com/fetzervalve.html
http://www.hawestv.com/amp_projects/fet_preamp/fetpreamp6.htm


soupbone

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Quote from: frank_p on November 13, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: smallbearelec on November 12, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

There should be a trimpot in the drain circuit of the transistor. With your meter connected from drain to ground, tweak that pot till you see 4.5 Volts.
Cool!This layout doesn't use a trimpot.Should i adjust the resistor,If need be that is connected to the drain of the transistor?
Oh ok,So you just replace the resistor with a trimpot instead.Excellent!Thanks!




Choose trimpot to higher value than the drain resistor on your shem.

Replace the resistor with trimpot like this:


adjust to 4.5v

Than if you have it, replace with close value resistor or leave trimpot.

Measure, try to play.

http://www.runoffgroove.com/fetzervalve.html
http://www.hawestv.com/amp_projects/fet_preamp/fetpreamp6.htm


Oh ok,So you just replace the resistor with a trimpot instead.Excellent!Merci!

soupbone

Quote from: smallbearelec on November 12, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: soupbone on November 12, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
I found a circuit that uses 1 MPF-102 tranny.It says on the build doc to "bias" the transistor for 4.5v.Anyone have any info on how to do this?

There should be a trimpot in the drain circuit of the transistor. With your meter connected from drain to ground, tweak that pot till you see 4.5 Volts.
Thanks Steve for the info!

diydave

If you don't want to use a trimpot for the drain, maybe these rules-off-thumb can help.
Vp/2 gives Idss/4.
Check out runoffgroove's fetzervalve to get the Idss (max current with gate=grnd) and Vp (pinch-off-voltage) off your fet.
So you can calculate a source-resistor Rs = (Vp/2)/(Idss/4).
To bias for 4.5 volts at the drain, you need a drain-resistor Rd = (4.5 volt / (Idss/4) ) - Rs.

I've written a calculator + Vp/Id curve as a visual aid to bias fets.
You can find it at www.diydave.be/tools/fetcalc/index_eng.html


soupbone

Quote from: diydave on November 13, 2011, 04:32:11 AM
If you don't want to use a trimpot for the drain, maybe these rules-off-thumb can help.
Vp/2 gives Idss/4.
Check out runoffgroove's fetzervalve to get the Idss (max current with gate=grnd) and Vp (pinch-off-voltage) off your fet.
So you can calculate a source-resistor Rs = (Vp/2)/(Idss/4).
To bias for 4.5 volts at the drain, you need a drain-resistor Rd = (4.5 volt / (Idss/4) ) - Rs.

I've written a calculator + Vp/Id curve as a visual aid to bias fets.
You can find it at www.diydave.be/tools/fetcalc/index_eng.html


Wow Dave thats some great info!Thanks!