Diamond Head era Phil Manzanera

Started by bwanasonic, December 12, 2011, 12:55:45 AM

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bwanasonic

Any tone historians here have a clue what Phil Manzanera was using for his sustainy signature lead sound circa 1975? I have a general interest in the Prog and Art Rock sounds of the the 70-75 era ( The three Steves: Howe, Hackett, Hillage. The two Phils: Manzanera and Miller. The Fripp: Robert ), and some variation of Tonebender or proto-Big Muff seems to be present in most cases. Any tips on Mr. Manzanera's gear circa Diamond Head would be appreciated ( well, Firebirds of course).

Rodgre

Great question and great tone! Sorry I can't answer but I'll give him a listen.

analogguru

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Probably treated with an EMS VCS3:
http://www.sonicstate.com/articles/article.cfm?id=110
Quote1972 - Blistering songs, razor sharp production and a glamorous image catapult Roxy's first album to the top of the charts. The album showcased Eno's VCS3 processing techniques on ..... Manzanera's guitar.

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/midiguitar/message/32382
Quote....... Also, Brian Eno's first few solo albums featured Phil Manzanera's guitar plugged into Eno's VCS3 synth.

http://manzanera.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=eno&action=print&thread=21
QuoteHowever Robin Wood tells me ..... that Phil Manzanera was rumoured to have a synth setup and it may be that.

Eno: ....it was essentially an EMS VCS3 synthesiser built into a unit that I designed. With Roxy you see, a lot of the time I was taking live instruments and feeding them into the synthesiser and treating them, so what I had was the basic synthesiser with some extra bits to help me...

or an EMS Synthi AKS:
http://zvito.com/c192-31943.html
QuoteThe Synthi AKS was used extensively by Brian Eno ..... to add colour to .... Phil Manzanera"s guitar work.

analogguru

bwanasonic

Thank you for the research! I'd love to have a detailed account of some those "treatments"! From a general stompbox perspective, it seems the prog era fuzz box was a tonebender variant with also maybe an octave-y fuzz or something goosing the tonebender. Mid-to-later 70's was likely to use a Big Muff. Of course the secret ingredient in many cases was sheer volume.

runmikeyrun

Quote from: bwanasonic on January 11, 2012, 11:15:16 PM
Thank you for the research! I'd love to have a detailed account of some those "treatments"! From a general stompbox perspective, it seems the prog era fuzz box was a tonebender variant with also maybe an octave-y fuzz or something goosing the tonebender. Mid-to-later 70's was likely to use a Big Muff. Of course the secret ingredient in many cases was sheer volume.

Yeah, sounds like a totally cranked amp to me whenever I listen to them.
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