Which drill to buy

[bsmcc2010]

I'm thinking of buying a new drill this week-my current one is single speed and waaaaaaaay too fast for drilling aluminium.

These are the 3 i've narrowed it down to. They all seem to do pretty much the same thing which means i'm tempted to go for the black and decker because it's cheaper.

Which one would you guys get or would you go for something completely different?

http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/12V-Cordless-drill-driver-Bosch-82571

http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/12V-Variable-speed-cordless-drill-driver-82599

http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Sealey-CP14035V-cordless-drill-driver-300671

[Seljer]

The black and decker doesn't come with a case. I find that having the case makes tidying up your workspace much nicer.

[paulyy]

All seem really nice but I all ways like using a drill press. I can get a cleaner a hole and its much more accurate than a hand drill. If you don't want to go that route then the bosch would be my choice.

[bsmcc2010]

Thanks guys, i want a pillar drill but i have no where to put it-i'm 17 and despite nagging my parents i'm not allowed to convert the cellar into a workshop so a pillar drill is a no go really.

Yeah a case would be nice but i'm not really fussed about that if all those drills will work just as good.

[joegagan]

for the price, i like the black and decker ( 51 year old carpenter here, use these things a lot). the bosch is probably a bit better, but not enough to justify the difference.

the sealy loooks cheap to me , not fmailiar tho, we don't have that brand in the US

my only complaint is that batteries should be lithium ion for a longer time between charges. are there any in this price range with  Li batts?

[bsmcc2010]

Don't think that there is-the longer charge time would be nice but i won't even be using it every day so not essential.

Thanks for the opinions-think i'll go with the black and decker

[joegagan]

ya, when you are up on a two story roof screwing big screws into metal, that last thing you want is to run out of juice at 10 am instead of lunchtime.

this is what i use.

[DavenPaget]

Lithium Ion batteries ... they surprisingly is searchable in amazon US but not UK ...
But whatever , this would definitely spark some interest .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-262212-Drill-Press-350W/dp/B002QRYEBQ/ref=sr_1_8?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1326662811&sr=1-8

On the topic of Lithium ion tools
Entire kit :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038SUXA8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_g60_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0RSTH1E14GZYY05Z4WDR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
Drill alone :
http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-PCL180DRK-2-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B001EYU8U8/ref=sr_1_19?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1326663420&sr=1-19

[G. Hoffman]

Now, this is just a personal thing related to the fact that I spend 99% of my time working at a bench with readily available power, but I don't like cordless drills.  If I were building houses, I'd probably feel differently, but the batteries will ALWAYS wear out at the worst possible moment, they are more expensive than I think they should be (at least, if you want a good one), and they NEVER have enough power for the really big jobs.  An old fashion 3/8" chuck drill with a cord will probably last longer - or at the very least you won't have to replace the battery ever two years - will have the power for all but the most strenuous of tasks (like drilling into hardened concrete, or brick, where you want a hammer drill anyway), and will give you much more for your dollar.  I will almost always take the corded drill over the cordless drill.

But then, your situation may be different than mine.  I should also say that, for anything related to pedals or amps, I'm using a drill press.  But then, I've got three of them, so my perspective is a bit skewed. 


Gabriel

[John Lyons]

I agree, get a corded drill for the reasons laid out above.

[earthtonesaudio]

I love cordless drills, and I love drill presses, but I HATE corded hand drills.  If you buy a drill with a cord attached then 100% of the holes you need to drill will be 1 foot farther from the outlet than your longest extension cord.  It's a law of nature.

[DavenPaget]

Now, this is just a personal thing related to the fact that I spend 99% of my time working at a bench with readily available power, but I don't like cordless drills.  If I were building houses, I'd probably feel differently, but the batteries will ALWAYS wear out at the worst possible moment, they are more expensive than I think they should be (at least, if you want a good one), and they NEVER have enough power for the really big jobs.  An old fashion 3/8" chuck drill with a cord will probably last longer - or at the very least you won't have to replace the battery ever two years - will have the power for all but the most strenuous of tasks (like drilling into hardened concrete, or brick, where you want a hammer drill anyway), and will give you much more for your dollar.  I will almost always take the corded drill over the cordless drill.

But then, your situation may be different than mine.  I should also say that, for anything related to pedals or amps, I'm using a drill press.  But then, I've got three of them, so my perspective is a bit skewed. 


Gabriel

I've got a classic 1/2" variable hammer and a cordless drill ... i would use a hammer for strength and the cordless for easy wood jobs .
Well i didn't have any money left for a drill press so i got a drill stand for my hammer .

[G. Hoffman]

I love cordless drills, and I love drill presses, but I HATE corded hand drills.  If you buy a drill with a cord attached then 100% of the holes you need to drill will be 1 foot farther from the outlet than your longest extension cord.  It's a law of nature.

Well, as I said, the vast majority of my work is at one of two benches which are laid out well enough that I never have that problem. 


Gabriel

[deadastronaut]

i use a very very  old black n decker...corded.....batteries suck imo.

the bosch looks nice...and its got a light...whhhoooohooo....

[defaced]

Every tool has a preferred use.  I have corded, cordless (regular, impact and hammer) and a two drill presses.  Anything is better than drilling a hole with an auger, so just get a drill.  For a first drill, I recommend the DeWalt DWD110K.  I have an older version, about 7 years old now, that I have beat the living snot out of and it keeps on ticking. 

[bsmcc2010]

thanks for all the responses

I just ordered the black and decker one that i posted-my corded 1 speed drill i have is black and decker and works fine, just not what i need. I wasn't prepared to pay an extra £10 just because bosch is probably a 'better' brand.

I would love a drill press but as i said i can't put it anywhere. But i don't do tonnes of drilling anyway so a cordless should be fine. Ordered a step bit aswell-heard really good thinks about them so thought i'd give it a go

[Seljer]

thanks for all the responses

I just ordered the black and decker one that i posted-my corded 1 speed drill i have is black and decker and works fine, just not what i need. I wasn't prepared to pay an extra £10 just because bosch is probably a 'better' brand.

I would love a drill press but as i said i can't put it anywhere. But i don't do tonnes of drilling anyway so a cordless should be fine. Ordered a step bit aswell-heard really good thinks about them so thought i'd give it a go

I've got one of these http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Draper-Vertical-Drill-Stand-91-6152/?sid=cac847ed-bfcd-43de-bb75-8bd581427e2c and it works great (though I'm pretty sure the price I paid was half of that one there). Doesn't take up a whole lot of space and you can take the drill out of it. Can't mount a cordless drill in it though.

[bsmcc2010]

My drill arrived today. It's the black and decker one i posted.

Seems really good to me. Nice variable speed with the trigger, reverse action and a function to lock it from drilling. Drill setting and lots of different torque settings for screwing. Comes with a double ended flat tip head/phillips head screw bit.

It does feel a little bit cheap and plastic-but i'm not complaining for less than £40!

I haven't actually tried it out for drilling yet but it seems just as good as my corded drill-just cordless and with the ability to not go 10000000000000000 rpm! (obviously not a literally)

[SonicVI]

Definitely  go with a corded and maybe get a drill guide, like this http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/GENERAL-Drill-Guide-3ZH18?Pid=search to get you closer to the accuracy of a drill press without the size.

[DavenPaget]

thanks for all the responses

I just ordered the black and decker one that i posted-my corded 1 speed drill i have is black and decker and works fine, just not what i need. I wasn't prepared to pay an extra £10 just because bosch is probably a 'better' brand.

I would love a drill press but as i said i can't put it anywhere. But i don't do tonnes of drilling anyway so a cordless should be fine. Ordered a step bit aswell-heard really good thinks about them so thought i'd give it a go

The reason for bosch is for reliability . That said , B&D build quality of their drills are paramount is toys .