Product Development- Boss Style Enclosure. Need Input!!

[boogietube]

Over the past while (years !), I have been developing a boss style enclosure with a treadle.
I now have a preliminary design, but wanted the forum's input on switching options.
I'm thinking on including an actuator and electronic switching as part of the package.
I may also be able to use the standard 3pdt switch, but the firmer actuation of these switches may present mechanical problems with the treadle.
I am open to discussion, and in fact, need it to develop this product.
Whatever is agreed upon here will ultimately show up in the final product, and the investor and myself do not want to have to machine multiple prototypes. It is very important that we will have what people will want, as we will be only offering one design for sale. I can not post the design.  I'm begging for your input on switching options.
I thank you for your time.
Sean Harris

[ugly_guitar_guy]

Over the past while (years !), I have been developing a boss style enclosure with a treadle.
I now have a preliminary design, but wanted the forum's input on switching options.
I'm thinking on including an actuator and electronic switching as part of the package.
I may also be able to use the standard 3pdt switch, but the firmer actuation of these switches may present mechanical problems with the treadle.
I am open to discussion, and in fact, need it to develop this product.
Whatever is agreed upon here will ultimately show up in the final product, and the investor and myself do not want to have to machine multiple prototypes. It is very important that we will have what people will want, as we will be only offering one design for sale. I can not post the design.  I'm begging for your input on switching options.
I thank you for your time.
Sean Harris

Hey Sean, I think most people from beginners on up are most familiar with using the normal 3PDT switch, so it would need to be compatible with those. I've made a couple pedals in BOSS cases with the switch under the treadle so I know that design does work that way. Personally, if the only way to use your pedal was with an actuator/relay switching, I'd probably be more inclined to stick with Hammond boxes. Looking forward to seeing your design!

[ORK]

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2871306-Space-short-funksters-check-in-here-please.
http://www.amtelectronics.com/images/News/WH-1/WH-1-3.20.jpg
http://www.plutoneium.com/aboutchiwahwah.aspx

[Taylor]

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2871306-Space-short-funksters-check-in-here-please.
http://www.amtelectronics.com/images/News/WH-1/WH-1-3.20.jpg
http://www.plutoneium.com/aboutchiwahwah.aspx

Those are cool (seriously), but,

1 - they are complete, commercial pedals, for sale to retail consumers, not an empty enclosure for sale to the DIY community/builders
2 - those are wah pedals, whereas I read the OP to just be talking about a standard Boss-style pedal where the treadle is simply a switch/actuator for bypassing an effect - not a continuously-variable treadle control.

Sean, it may help to get the discussion/suggestions flowing if you flesh out exactly what you're making and aiming for with this. If you can't give details, it might at least help to give a rough outline of what the thing will look like, how it will function, who it's for and why it's better than what's available currently.

FWIW, an enclosure like that AMT wah would be great. I'd definitely pick up some for expression pedals.

[Ice-9]

I would suggest having a pic controlled switch that operates a relay which would be true bypass (most people prefer TB.) The entire switch and circuitry including an LED indicator could be mounted on a small PCB which is a permament fixture designed to fit into the enclosure. There would only be 4 wires to connect to the main effect circuit (power + - and signal in/out.

Check out the Jack DeVille clickless bypass kit. I am talking along the same lines as this  http://www.jackdeville.com/clickless-system/cltb

[daytripper]

nice bypass...i wonder how it works

[Ice-9]

nice bypass...i wonder how it works

R.G. posted info on a bypass very similar to this one. I believe it uses a momemtary push to make switch to toggle control an input pin on the pic which toggles the output to drive a relay for switching, the trick of course is the code in the pic for switch de-bounce.

Here is an interesting read on AMZ developed relay circuit.

http://www.muzique.com/schem/bypass.htm