this may sound like a bad joke but...

[birt]

if you parallel a WAH and a YOY? do you get a WHY?

i know people have tried parallel wahs, but has anyone tried this?

[artifus]

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[Colonel Angus]

  Couldn't help myself, that's deep!

[Vince_b]

This is really funny 
But I sincerely hope that someone will try it and make a video.

[Mark Hammer]

I have a wah, and I have a Line 6 M9 which has some vocal formant effects that let you pick your starting and ending vowels.  I'll have to see if I can run the two in parallel with the proper settings, and conduct the experiment.

[digi2t]

You might be able to do it with the Boss GT-Pro (Humanizer effect). Same deal as the M9, with the start/finish vowels thing.

I've got one, but it's not in the rack right now. I'll have to try it when I have some time.

[pinkjimiphoton]

you gotta sweep both pedals at the same time, but no, it won't say why.

sounds pretty neat tho...i tried it with my crybaby and my mouthmeistor as well as my ludwig phase ii and colorsound vocalizer.

really just sounds like a wah wah thru a wah.

i'll try and make a clip for ya one of these days.

[Vince_b]

but no, it won't say why.

So sad to hear that, but I'm still keeping hope  . I have to try it for myself.
I will dig up by Boss Gt-6, if remember correctly it have an humanizer effect, and I will parallel it with my crybaby.
But I never used any effects in parallel, what is the easiest way to do it? Does the signal needs to be boosted after it is splitted?

[pinkjimiphoton]

just plug your wah into your gt6 and have at it. i would set both formants on the gt6 to the ai setting tho, i have a feeling that will get ya close...if ya wha into an aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii sound (the top of the yoy) you may well pull it off...

or maybe you'll have the reissue eh talking pedal



note...a bit of fuzz will most likely be mandatory...like "smoke" and lazer beams

[Earthscum]

To make it say "WHY" you make the lowpass sweep from heel down to halfway for the typical "wah", and the high pass sweep from halfway to toe down for the "AYE". Backwards it says "YOW!", lol. 

With that configuration, you can also call a DIYSB member, "AYAYAY".

[R.G.]

N. B. See http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/sing-wah/sing-wah.htm from 2001.

[DDD]

WAH, YOY and even a WHA in parallel can produce extremely interesting sound for sure.

[pinkjimiphoton]

N. B. See http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/sing-wah/sing-wah.htm from 2001.

r.g., did you ever get that monstrostity working?

or are ya still waiting for a guinea pig? cuz if ya are, i'm down!!!

but...i dunno about on vero...dino? got your ears on??


and where's ayay been lately?

[Mark Hammer]

Currently working my way through a book I stumbled onto a few weeks ago, called "How to Wreck a Nice Beach" (a misperception of a synthesized voice saying "How to recognize speech"), that follows the history of voice synthesis from the earliest speech scramblers for pre-WWII military communications, right up through talkboxes, and vocoders.  Not many books that can talk about Roger Trout, Kraftwerk, Alvino Ray, Peter Frampton, and Churchill and Roosevelt.

I'm hoping there will be some ideas in it, though the author's writing style is a bit of an impediment.  Still, I'm learning about devices Inever knew existed.  Ever heard of a Sonovox?

[pinkjimiphoton]

i'll see your sonovox and raise ya a pair of chamberlains, mark...

sounds like a neat book!!

[birt]

Currently working my way through a book I stumbled onto a few weeks ago, called "How to Wreck a Nice Beach" (a misperception of a synthesized voice saying "How to recognize speech"), that follows the history of voice synthesis from the earliest speech scramblers for pre-WWII military communications, right up through talkboxes, and vocoders.  Not many books that can talk about Roger Trout, Kraftwerk, Alvino Ray, Peter Frampton, and Churchill and Roosevelt.

I'm hoping there will be some ideas in it, though the author's writing style is a bit of an impediment.  Still, I'm learning about devices Inever knew existed.  Ever heard of a Sonovox?

what does it say about the Voder?

[birt]

@ R.G.
i know that article and have read many more on you site a long time ago ;-)

[Mark Hammer]

Currently working my way through a book I stumbled onto a few weeks ago, called "How to Wreck a Nice Beach" (a misperception of a synthesized voice saying "How to recognize speech"), that follows the history of voice synthesis from the earliest speech scramblers for pre-WWII military communications, right up through talkboxes, and vocoders.  Not many books that can talk about Roger Trout, Kraftwerk, Alvino Ray, Peter Frampton, and Churchill and Roosevelt.

I'm hoping there will be some ideas in it, though the author's writing style is a bit of an impediment.  Still, I'm learning about devices Inever knew existed.  Ever heard of a Sonovox?

what does it say about the Voder?

Plenty, actually.  Lots of pictures of the huge 1939 World's Fair display.  From the sounds of it, almost as hard to "play" as a theremin.  Lots of info about its inventor/developer, Homer Dudley, who apparently had his big conceptual breakthrough while he was lying in bed in hospital, recovering from surgery or something.

Nothing about Chamberlains in the book.  Isn't that a keyboard of some kind?  It,s a neat book in terms of what it covers, and the puictures it includes, but the author can't decide if he wants to be a journalist or a slam poet.  As a result, I find myself skipping over sections that are more textural than informative.

Anybody familiar with the (semi-) legendary OVC - the Outer Visual Communicator?  or the single Pack Jam by the Jonzun Crew?

[R.G.]

r.g., did you ever get that monstrostity working?
or are ya still waiting for a guinea pig? cuz if ya are, i'm down!!!

It could get complicated. A little navel-staring at the vowel-chart shows that doing a simple "path" through the first formant frequency and second formant frequency could be hard to do with analog. That's the reason that the Phase II has that funny business of control voltages derived from the rocker pot, and the reason the EH talking wah has the odd center tapped pot, and...

I decided that the thing to do was to virtualize the pots. My preferred implementation is to read the value of the pot with a microcontroller, converting it to a digital number between 0 and 1023. Based on that number, the microcontroller would go slew a couple of control voltages to move filter freqeuncies to the desired vowel. It's a much more usable way to get "position 6 = AHHHHHH" and "position 8 = EEEEEE'" and position 3 = "AWWWWW" as well as moving seamlessly between them, which is what humans do naturally.

It makes the circuits easy - there are a couple of voltage controlled filters, a single pot, and a microcontroller, probably a 14 pin job. And that's all. The complexity is all subsumed into the microcontroller code.

[digi2t]

but...i dunno about on vero...dino? got your ears on??

Geez bro... why don't ya ask me to vero oral sex instead! Might be easier