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fuzz faeces :o

Started by deadastronaut, August 25, 2012, 09:12:30 AM

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LucifersTrip

not sure what/why you did it that way...it should simply be inserted on the other side of C1
always think outside the box

deadastronaut

#61
removed, due to stupid ? ::)

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#62
ok i went back a step and added  clpping diodes 1n4148's,/ 1n914's which has brought the loudness under control nicely

and added to the brassy sound too....

sorted!!!!!... ;)

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Jussi

#63
I'm currently making a modded fuzz face. Its still on a breadboard. Here is the schematics and a sound clip. What do you think? I don't know how a original fuzz face sounds like, but I like this.
http://soundcloud.com/jussi-poikkeus/fuzzface1/s-ifH85 (played to mesa mini rectifier od channel [low gain & volume])


pinkjimiphoton


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Jussi

Sorry, I've updated the link now.

pinkjimiphoton

sounds good!! ;)

if it cleans up when ya roll your guitar down, it's a fuzzface.

big, woofy, hint of octave down, nice woman tone and some serious breakup! :icon_mrgreen:

the thing with fuzzfaces is that they cover A LOT of area. this is absolutely in the ballpark.

well done jussi!!
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LucifersTrip

well, of course it's a lot bassier with that large input cap, output cap, 100 pf on Q1 and 1K instead of 470...and there's more breakup as Jimi said...but sounds cool!   maybe good for a bass or playing Kyuss
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pinkjimiphoton

indeed.
i'd like to hear how it reacts with the guitar volume rolled way back.
sometimes, a smaller input cap rolls off too much bass, and ya get more of a treble booster at low guitar volumes.
i used a 10u cap on the fuzz i built for dick wagner..the tone stayed about the same from off to full, but it was too woofy for him.
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Jussi

#69
At the second part of the clip I rolled guitar volume a little bit off.

I noticed that changing the 100K resistor to 68K made it a little brighter. Hmm. Need to test more.

I will record a new clip when I've built this.

pinkjimiphoton

i could hear it roll back a little, i'd like to hear some slow volume sweeps, or ya play with the guitar knob barely on.
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Jussi

With very small guitar volume it sounds clean. I don't hear any treble, middle or bass boost

pinkjimiphoton

perfect, sounds like ya nailed it then, bro
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rugeb

Sounds very good!
You know the gain and leakage of the transistors?




Jussi

#74
Nope. I just tried a few, wrote some notes about the sound and chose the best combo  :icon_mrgreen:

deadastronaut

#75
ok i'm back on this to finish it off....finally.. ::)

i settled for Q1 2N3904  Q2 BC108.

i tried out the recommended Q1 70-85 hfe, Q2 120-140 hfe for silicons, (which i read somewhere)  ....but it sounded really weak and  naff!.... (bearing in mind i'm not really a fuzz fan anyway, so it may have been great to others ears!. ;D)

but i have full on fuzz and the synthy hillagey trumpety thing  back too.. 8)..and it cleans up nicely on the guitar volly..

i also added a pregain, instead of the fuzz pot...much better control imo.

and added a 100pf across Q1 collector/ base to quell any high freq stuff going on..sorted.

i shall add a protection diode too..1n4001.

a couple of questions though before i finish my pcb layout.

: why do i never see a pulldown resistor on  a FF? (anti switch pop)

: why do i never see  'power filter' cap on a FF?  ( 100uf to ground)  (i will be using a psu so should i add this?)

: how much beer should i drink to make it sound good?.. ;)

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Quote from: deadastronaut on May 30, 2013, 07:09:44 AM

: why do i never see a pulldown resistor on  a FF? (anti switch pop)

: why do i never see  'power filter' cap on a FF?  ( 100uf to ground)  (i will be using a psu so should i add this?)

: how much beer should i drink to make it sound good?.. ;)


1. Dunno.
2. Dunno.
3. As much as it takes, mate.    8)
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cheers marc:

i drank a bottle and a half of famous grouse, but it still sounds weird...

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^^^ Has to be beer.  A bottle and a half of grouse will make anything sound weird.  :icon_twisted:  And look weird.  Feel weird.  Taste weird...   :icon_wink:
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deadastronaut

ok, finally settled on my values after trying it out with a crybaby , and into my amp..

however, i'm getting a faint but audible (annoying)  high pitched whine when fuzz is on...(on breadboard at the mo)

ive tried 47-100pf on collector/base of Q1...but its still there...

it only goes when i turn down pregain...or dial the bias fully CW.. ..hmmmm...

will sheilding the input, and boxing it up get rid of that....it doesn't seem to go when i put my hand over the breadboard...(like it does with hi gain fet stuff)

hmmmm...any ideas?. ???



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